Texas 6-week abortion ban takes effect after Supreme Court inaction

No I'm not because you're example of viability is a simply made up scenario that actually has nothing to do with the viability of the stages of human growth. You are conflating two different things and putting them under the same umbrella. That is intellectual dishonesty.
You do that a lot.

 

It isn’t based on reality though, merely your opinion. If that is the case why didn’t Texas hit all abortions instead of those just after a heartbeat is detected?

You may not have forced her to get pregnant (all pregnancies are not intentional however) but you are saying she loses the right over her body after a pregnancy does occur. Do you agree that the government has the ability to force someone to sustain the life of another against their wishes, even while it is putting that individual in financial and medical risk?

 

Again, I said that they share a little bit of DNA but that doesn't make it "completely unique". Fingerprints are more unique than DNA.

 

I can't see why lefties are so mad.

 

you're just saying that because it makes your claim of viability to vague to standardize.

What two different things I'm talking about viability that's it nothing else so there's no two things. It's one thing and it's subject to a lot of variables that you don't want to accept because it undermines your position.

It's rather ironic that you say I'm dishonest.

 

no it's based on reality every human that ever lived was conceived you can't show an example of one that wasn't.

And that's why I consider the moment of conception to be the moment of life and that's biological too because the moment of conception is where all humans start with no exception.

compromise you have to do that sometimes in government.

if you're not forced to get pregnant then you're not forced to be pregnant cuz you could just not get pregnant right and then you wouldn't have to have a baby?

The government has the ability to do that if a woman gets pregnant and has a baby and the man that got her pregnant is not married to her nor does he live with her the government forces him to pay child support so yeah the government does absolutely force that.

If you don't want to take the medical risk of being pregnant don't get pregnant. With an exception of probably a very statistically low case of rapes nobody is ever forced to be pregnant.

 

1) Nope. You are just making the same false claim against me.

2) I didn't separate anything. Pregnancy and birth are related. I'm not separating it. I'm talking about women's right to their own body. The right to say no to sex to prevent pregnancy, and the right to abortion to prevent birth.

3) Wait, "I" am not accepting? Ignore for the fact that I already proved you wrong above, I thought you were accusing me of suggesting women don't know what they're doing. How did I do that? When all I am for is to let them decide for themselves whether they want to continue pregnancy, or not?

Disagreeing is fine, even among scientists there's no 100% agreement. If you disagree then don't get one yourself.

But don't force other women who disagree with you to agree with you to avoid punishment.

Unless you are willing to be responsible for forcing them.

You are not making sense here.

It's not a human being or a baby, but you disagree, so that goes back to

That's fine. Then don't get one yourself.
And don't force other women who disagree with you to agree with you to avoid punishment.
Unless you are willing to be responsible for forcing them.

 

Well I share a little bit of DNA with my mother that doesn't mean she has the right to kill me.

 

if you disagree with slaying a 5 year old just don't slay any what other people do whatever they want.

so if a woman wants to murder her husband there shouldn't be any Force applied by society to try and get her not to do that to avoid punishment?

Do you support any laws?

unless I have a woman chained up in a basement and I have impregnated her I'm not forcing anybody to be pregnant stay pregnant or give birth

you were the one that compared to getting an abortion to getting a vaccine that's probably cuz you're comparison was stupid

so what is it a giraffe how did the giraffe get inside of a woman?

if you don't agree with slaying a fireball don't slay one yourself don't force women who disagree with you to agree with you to avoid punishment.

Don't Force women to keep 5-year-olds. Let's see if you force them not to slay their five year olds through punishment for not agreeing with you then you should be responsible for that 5-year-old.

 

its not necessarily because they are injured is so the can swab her for evidence like semen or if she fought back skin from under her finger nails they also do an STD test

 

what a silly argument
that is the same as if a a painter created a unique painting it isn't really unique because he used colors used in other paintings
or a unique house because it used bricks used in other houses

 

simple you don't need abortions to obtain stem cells

 

no a heart beat isn't an appear to emotion but as an indicator when the unborn is indisputably an alive human

 

That is irrelevant to when personhood begins, in both the medical and legal definitions of the term.

How is an arbitrary deadline that will put an undue burden on providers and women a “compromise”? Who are you compromising with?

False, you can not be forced to do something and then forced later. If someone breaks their arm it isn’t your fault, but you can still stand in the way of medical treatment.

Can you acknowledge that not all pregnancies are wanted or on purpose? Birth control fails

The woman has not had the baby; the question was if you feel the government should be able to force someone to sustain the life of another against their wishes, even while it is putting that individual in financial and medical risk? (This is what is happening during an unwanted pregnancy)

It is strange seeing the same people saying they shouldn’t be forced to temporarily wear a mask or receive a shot also arguing a woman should have to do something way worse for 9 months.

 

no need for a women to require an abortion after a rape if she does the right thing reports the rape and goes to a hospital to have a rape kit done which part of the rap kit is a Plan B

 

"Viability" is a vague unsettled ambiguous term. Tell me a baby is born and placed on a table and everyone walks away and leaves it there, who "viable" is that life? It is intellectual dishonesty to believe that is when a human life begins.

I cite above from a collection of the widely used textbooks. The human life begins at conception, that is the beginning of the human being, the baby at that stage of it's life.

 

She can go to any drug store and get a morning after kit.

 

legally is irrelevant because corporations can granted personhood.

Medical isn't relevant because personhood isn't a medical thing

I'm not the state of Texas I didn't compromise with anybody.

I'm going to assume the burden of motherhood when they become sexually active just like men assume the burden of fatherhood when they do that

irrelevant nobody is forcing women to do anything.

yes I can know that by engaging in the activity you assume the risk this is why I 100% support education

again we force men to pay child support for the children they create. That is forcing someone not only to sustain life but to sustain a certain quality level of life even if it's against their wishes. Many men die on the job, so requiring this of them puts them at medical and financial risk.

It doesn't matter if I think it's right or not we do it just not for the poor little damsels.

Nobody is saying women should do anything. If they take on the risk they should be responsible for the fallout just like if a police officer chooses to be a police officer they're accepting the risk that they might be killed in the line of duty.

They're not being forced.

 

She doesn't have to prove anything to get a morning after kit at any drug store if she is raped. Why would it take six weeks? And again why is RAPE you justification, what percent of abortions are due to rape? Why is that the MOST important thing about abortion to you?

And don't you believe women should report a rape? The person who raped her could do it again.

 

Made up personhood is irrelevent to everything. A person is a human being, the life in the womb is a human being. You can't wish away that humanity with arbitrary terms.

 

It is a yes or no question, do you feel the government should be able to force someone to sustain the life of another against their wishes, even while it is putting that individual in financial and medical risk?

It is absolutely force if all other options are removed.

 

An unformed bundle of cells is not a person. A diploid cell is not a person.

It may eventually become one but is not until a certain stage.

 

I'm not and you are not a scientist or a doctor. Best to ask them, but it's not hard to find on the internet. No one is arguing that life begins at conception so why bring that up.

 

I'm saying it already does Are You advocating against child support?

Right if women are forcefully impregnated yes then they're forced but if they're not they're not.

They aren't so they're not.

 

Never said that

Not yet but it has great potential

Not relevant. Use an analogy that actually applies.