Let's put the voter ID fight in pause

Then what do you think the government should give up to pay for it?

 

Your op is nothing more than projection. The democracy is under threat from the democrats not republicans

 

I mean ffs bro your party literally paid a foreign intelligence agent to create a fake dossier in order to weaponize the FBI into spying on a presidential candidates campaign.

Please excuse me while I completely ignore your laughably faux concern about democracy

 

Oh great another Golem thread...we all know how this will be. I can't wait for the next rinse and repeat.

 

You are getting your ass kicked on the issue so you offer a pause? BAHAHAHAHAHA!

Do you check anything before you assert it as fact? The GOP are the ONLY group that have increased in proportion since the Delta variant hit. The GOP has increase by 29% The Dems have decreased by 10%

https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

 

Reduce military spending.

 

.OK. But it seems like a bad time to do it with China and Russia acting up.

 

I wouldn't Democrats have ID is it because of their felons illegal aliens or their voting six or seven times for different people that would be the only reason you would be against voter ID is to protect that kind of behavior maybe that's the only way you can win maybe you already know that. Maybe that's why you're against it.

Yeah I think we should push harder for it because you're scared that your scam might be undone.

 

So you're saying that what we have right now isn't enough to deal with China and Russia?

 

Maybe you should stop denying the existence of voter suppression tactics by the repubs.
I am happy to go with a national ID card that was secure and provided to all citizens and allowed them to vote securely online, by mail or in person as they chose.

 

Probably not and you want to reduce it.

 

So? That makes sense but that isn’t what they want. They want free for all non citizen voting. Bit also for a national id card

 

Look up the meaning of the word "pause", read the OP, and let us know if you have something to contribute to this topic.

 

Question my belief that, in a dictatorship, what people believe doesn't matter? You disagree with that?

You quoted a post which you obviously either didn't read, or didn't understand. Try harder!

 

Of course votes were tampered with! If I remember correctly it was determined to be between 400 and 500 nationwide. So what? Most of those will be prosecuted. And they were voters from both sides. But even if ALL those 400 to 500 votes had been for Biden, Trump has lost hundreds of times more voters to his anti-science Covid agenda than to any of this.

What WOULD alter the results would be if the Trump insurrection had succeeded.

And the point is that legislation is slowly being pushed so that next time it COULD succeed. You do understand this means that, henceforth, votes won't matter.

And if votes don't matter, your ideology won't matter. It won't matter if you for or against abortion, or for or against gun control, or government spending.... Because the can't be voted out no matter what they do.

 

Sure thing, dude. An election that can't be verified is an election that can be stolen.

 

If what you say is intended to keep you in power, as opposed to being what you actually believe, you have abandoned ideology.

The GOP has shifted from being a party of ideologues, to a being Party with no ideology.

It's much worse than that. What Republican followers love and worship will be irrelevant once Republicans in power cannot be voted out because they have the power to decertify election results.

 

So you are a fan of dictatorships. Where EVERYBODY is robbed equally.

 

This thread is NOT a discussion about voter ID. It's about NOT discussing it because voter ID is a strawman that is irrelevant to the final results of any elections. Unlike Republican attempts to overturn the results of elections.

Read the OP. Try to focus!

 

Talk about the forest for the trees.

And what legislation are you even talking about anyways? You haven't shown what legislation is supposedly doing this.

 

Verifying is not the same as overturning the results. Focus!

 

Exactly! Both Democrats and Republicans (probably the latter on purpose) are wasting their time on Voter ID when there is a much bigger and REAL threat to democracy.

https://tucson.com/news/state-and-r...cle_c2a70681-59c0-512f-ba86-2bf23128f9ee.html
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-alli...votes-nix-certification-pick-electors-1550925
https://pbswisconsin.org/news-item/wisconsin-legislators-join-suit-to-overturn-election/
https://legiscan.com/AR/text/HB1803/id/2376334
http://www.kslegislature.org/li/b2021_22/measures/hb2332/

Don't bother debating each individual act. It's clear that Republicans are seeking to open back doors to decertifying legitimate elections. What should concern YOU is that, if this effort succeeds, what you believe... your ideology... will no longer matter. Even if Republicans are in power. So just put aside your partisanship and be vigilant. Because, you probably never lived under a dictatorship, but believe me that losing our democracy is not going to be appealing to you.

 

Republicans don't give a **** about the national debt. Republicans LOVE to spend, they just spend on the items they like.

 

No, Trump wanted the governors to ignore the electors and just replace them with Trump supporting electors. FOCUS, Trump is and his supporters are a threat to this country.

 

The same answer that goes with the idea that absolutely no one canvassed potential voters and told them how to fill out the ballot for the canvasser's preferred candidate.