New woke buzzword just dropped: "Policy violence"

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  1. Zorro

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    New woke buzzword just dropped: "Policy violence".
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    Ayanna Pressley:
    Using "Policy Violence" for "a bougie hobbyhorse like student-debt forgiveness is a supreme example of the Squad exposing who their actual constituency is, namely, extremely woke white yuppies."

    I'd like to see a little more good sense out of these clowns.

    This constant othering is tiring.

    The dog whistles for violence when Leftists aren't getting their way has gone too far already.
     
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    america needs millions of college educated professionals. our brightest high school graduates probably do not want to enslave themselves to wall st for the privilege of being teachers or military officers. we really need programs to encourage kids to choose these careers.
     
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    Or maybe they are signaling to future students that they, too, can go to college if they can't afford to do so. We lose out on having a huge number of young people getting well educated by having the high cost of post secondary education.
     
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    However, making such things free- doesn't inspire anyone. Need inspires. IF you want to learn something bad enough, you will find a way to make it happen- and value it highly.. IF you don't want it bad enough to work for it, you won't gain anything going through the motions of it's given to you; you see the diploma as a free pass to wealth rather than a skill to be used productively. People will go to school in exchange for not having to work and produce- so long as somebody else pays their way. Used to have a PhD working for me. Stayed in school until he was 30 to avoid the real world, then his parents ran out of money. He was my warehouse janitor.

    Free- is more like giving people a disease than a benefit most of the time.
     
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    You just explained the high cost of post secondary education. Supply is relatively fixed and demand is driven by an irrational narrative that kids should enroll in college before they know who they are and what natural abilities they have to build on and build a livelihood around. Cost is driven by blind wanderers pursuing degrees in identity-focused psychosis -- degree programs like "women studies", "African American studies", etc.
     
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    Agree. Such education is really only valuable to those who will use it effectively; and that takes a drive within the person, they must be hungry to learn- want the knowledge, not just a degree. For others, it's the illusion of a symbol- meaning that since I have a degree I am smart, I am superior, I am worth more. Once they have the symbol- using the knowledge, developing the skill and applications of it are not so important.

    The ability to be highly productivity or make worthy contributions doesn't matter much to such people. The fact is that if you want it for the right reason, the drive will be there and you find a way- and that is the filter that separates those who will effectively learn and use knowledge from those who want a ticket to ride on the coat-tails of others.
     
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    Uh oh. Angry Black Woman alert!!!
     
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    It was Biden who voted, not once but twice, to make student loans unbankruptal.

    Banks are willing to lend hundreds of thousands of dollars to a twenty two year old and universities are willing to accept it because there is absolutely no risk.

    Universities have all raised tuition, as "free" money in the names of loans are available to anybody.

    Government actions have consequences.

    Banks won't give a 22 year old kid $10k to start a business, but has no issue giving the same kid $200,000 to pursue a doctorate degree. Wonder why that is.
     
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    To lefties, everything is violence except actual violence.
     
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    To righties, violence is ok when they lose general elections.
     
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    I do not support student loan forgiveness but aside from that, college educated citizens are a priceless recourse to any country.

    The parties need to get together (as if there is a chamce of that) and figure out how to make college affordable for everyone.

    I like Capitalism but capitalism and college are not a good mix.
     
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    And who were the ones arguing for and against that student loan insanity?

    Maybe she needs to take a look at that.

    I seem to remember many conservatives further to the Right saying that it didn't really make economic sense, was leading to a giant bubble in the economy, that it would push many students into crippling debt and put them in a bad situation.
     
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    Let’s make it plain: student debt is policy violence....

    I agree 100%. Car loan is also policy violence as are mortgages. It is simply unacceptable that I should have to go into $60,000 worth of debt paying hundreds of dollars a month WITH interest for years simply to get a vehicle that I want. Americans need transportation, not everybody lives in a city with public transportation or within walking/biking distance to school or work or the grocery store. Cost should not be a barrier against something that I need to even function in society as an adult. Without a vehicle I can't get a job and pay taxes and contribute back to society. It is policy violence that I don't get something that would greatly increase my chances of success in life for free.

    Think about it government and do the right thing, it makes sense. If you simply wiped clean my $60,000 truck loan I'd then be able to take that 900+ dollar a month payment and use that money in SOCIETY by spending it at stores and restaurants or cruises or whatever which boosts the economy. And you get taxes from that money I'm now spending. Duh.
     
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    False, but I noticed you didn't try to deny my statement on you guys and violence.
     
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    Yet the guys who learn to weld, and do machining can make more money quicker and without a but load of debt than your average MA in philosophy, and contribute something to society beyond an absolute faith in terrible ideas.
     
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    The same commies think speech is violence and that their "mostly peaceful" summer was fine.
     
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    I don’t need to deny a false statement.
     
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    Are there any positions commonly not being filled due to lack of adequately educated applicants?

    If not, then creating more educated applicants is not going to help anyone, and will only make it harder for the college educated to find quality employment.
     
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    You don't need to go to college to become a military officer. You just need to join the military and work your ass off taking all the courses that the military offers to become one.
     
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    In the United States you do have to have a bachelors degree in college to be a Commissioned Officer.
     
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    Yes, they eventually started requiring a college degree after "everyone" was getting to them, to help separate out the riff raff.

    (Also since they were no longer able to use old forms of discrimination, they switched to another form, educational discrimination)

    This happened at about the same time that many other types of job positions in the economy began requiring college degrees that never used to require them before.
     
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    It’s not capitalism’s fault lol it is in fact socialism’s fault.

    You have a system (the universities) who know that they can continue raising the prices without raising the quality of their product and they have a GUARANTEED population base who can afford it because the government is paying for them with Pell Grants. The universities know that no matter what they charge or how crappy of a product they put out, people will pay because the people aren’t paying for it themselves, the government (the taxpayer) is.
     
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    This thread is quickly getting off topic. Back to the main topic?
     
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    ~ " Well educated " today means almost nothing.

    ~ Sad but true ...
     
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    Good to know!
     
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