Don Jr& Fox Stars begged Meadows to tell Trump to stop riot

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  1. cabse5

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    The Jan.6 investigatory committee has no facts just lies, innuendo and gossip.:roflol:
     
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    Yep - if someone agrees with me because the only arguments he has is 'Nothing like a good rant to calm you down' - usually I calm down.
     
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    Politics isn't the weird worship of one dude.

    Your tongue should be withdrawn while justice is pursued in the interests of democracy.
     

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    The January 6th insurrection fits perfectly to the definition of insurrection. Look it up I already linked it once. You lose, insurrection supporter,
     
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    You do know that insurrection requires intent right? And these messages from Don Jr. and Meadows actually shows that there was no intent to commit insurrection.
     
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    the intent is stoking everyone with lies, telling them to come to the capitol, and then telling to take back their country.
     
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    Bold: No, those are reasonings to come to the protest.

    Rest: All while ignoring that he also said: "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." And while ignoring these messages from Don Jr and Meadows showing that there was no intent.
     
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    even now trump supports the insurrectionists. Trumps comments were to come to the rally and then take back their country. It’s was an insurrection and I’m happy to see those folks get jail time. May they rot in hell. You supported the insurrection which is why you don’t want it called that.
     
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    Sorry to burst your bubble, but I have spoken out against the riot and am quite happy that those that did so are being sent to prison/jail. And my past posts show that. But if this is an "insurrection", which its not, then CHAZ/CHOP was an insurrection to. And you never spoke the word "insurrection" until 1/6. Did you?

    But you keep ignoring that Trump said ""I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." You keep ignoring that these messages from Don Jr. and Meadows actually shows that there was no intent to have an insurrection.

    Now, go ahead and repeat yourself while ignoring everything else that shows that you're wrong.
     
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    There was not an insurrection and no one has been charged with insurrection PERIOD. And do not try to claim I supported the riot that ensued.

    "After the Capitol riot of Jan. 6, the New York Times and other publications on the left began calling the event an “insurrection” and an attempted “coup.” The riot was an appalling and dishonorable event, and the perpetrators of its crimes are rightly being prosecuted. But to call it an attempted coup is preposterous—and not simply for the practical reason that the prosecuted rioters weren’t indicted for treason or conspiracy to overthrow the government but for obstruction of an official proceeding, trespassing on government property, disorderly conduct and the like. The idea that Donald Trump and his followers had any chance of overthrowing the U.S. government, or even that they aimed at that outcome, is a delusion. That delusion springs from American liberal elites’ failure to accept the fact of their own predominance.....

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    The idea that the Capitol rioters threatened the American republic is a fantasy. Even to pose such a threat, they would have needed to do far more than break into an unguarded Capitol building and stop Vice President Mike Pence from certifying the count of the Electoral College. To stage a coup, these renegades would have needed the backing of the military; and to govern afterward they would have needed cooperation from other institutions, including the news media and the federal bureaucracy. They had no support from those quarters and no hope of getting it. Their effort was witless and pointless, a dud grenade thrown at an armored division.

    Even so, the riot will live on in the public consciousness as an “insurrection” and attempted “coup” because it encourages the left’s irrational fear of conquest by the right. The danger is that this paranoia keeps liberals from understanding their own dominant position—and acknowledging how illiberally they often exploit it."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/imposs...e-liberalism-colleges-media-trump-11637344629
     
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    ... by peacefully protesting and making their voices heard just as Democrats and the left do.
     
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    Trump also told the mindless traitors there that they have to fight like hell. Giuliani told those same idiots that there needs to be trial by combat.

    But please, continue to pretend that Trump asked all of those dipshits to come to DC to join hands and sing kumbaya.
     
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    Do you have any idea how many other politicians have said those same words? Should I bring up a list after I get off work? Or are you capable of looking it up yourself?
     
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    How many of these other politicians continually lied to their mindless base and get them frothing at the mouth angry over fake vote fraud claims?
     
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    Yep like all politicians tell their supporters to fight like hell for what they believe.
     
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    Do other politicians lie to their mindless traitorous base about vote fraud to get them frothing at the mouth angry?
     
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    Oh Abrams comes to mind, Gore, Hillary still goes on about Russia along will all the other Dems who tried their own "coup" to first try and deny Trump the election and then the office itself.
     
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    Did all of these others refuse to concede the election they lost? Did they feed their base constant lies about fraud for months and invite them to DC on the day Congress was to certify the election?

    You rightists claim that all politicians do this, care to show me just one other occasion this has happened in our Country?
     
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    Irrelevant to the issue of whether or not Trump intended to commit insurrection.

    The words used that those like you claim shows there was intent to commit insurrection has been used by other politicians. "Fight like hell", "take back your country", etc etc. It is well known that those are rhetorical statements that is never used in the literal physical fighting sense. Which is why other politicians use them also. The only reason to deny or ignore those facts is for political reasons.
     
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    So it was just a huge coincidence that Trump held his rally in DC on the exact same day that Congress was to certify the election? To rightists, it's absolutely normal for a Presidential candidate to refuse the outcome of the election, lie to his traitorous base and encourage them to be angry that he lost the election.
     
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    That they were there is most certainly not a coincidence. The event WAS planned after all and you know that. What Trump did not plan on was the riot. The messages from Don Jr. and Meadows shows that. Otherwise there would be no reason for them to send such messages.
     
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    Justice based on zero factual evidence is which kind of justice. again??...Right, vigilante justice.
     
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    If you need to pretend that the ongoing trials - some under Trump-appointed judges - in federal courts, of Trump goons who attacked the Capitol on January 6, where convictions as well as confessions are based upon irrefutable evidence, is "vigilanteism," your understanding of American jurisprudence is woefully misinformed.
    Anti-American propaganda outlets may be feeding you such poo poo. Be wary.
     
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