Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. MiaBleu

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    Of course Russians attack civilians.........just examine Putin's war history.
     
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    Better come here and see what's really going on.
    Only Ukrainian Nazis are cruel here
    There is no Russian here who shooted any civilian yet.
    But you can continue to sit on your couch and talk about things you've never seen before.
     
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    "Because the Russians do not attack civilians" is not a justification. You've got your argument back asswards.

    Russians are attacking civilian buildings and, like they do in Syria, trying to justify it lies about "human shields." If you had any moral sense, you would condemn any attack on a civilian building under that pretense, because even if it were true, your fascist forces would still be choosing to harm, kill and terrorize civilians just to try and get at whatever soldier or equipment was there.

    But then there are the cases where there was absolutely nothing of the sort claimed even by your lying MOD, such as when they attacked the broadcast tower in Kyiv and killed several civilians. These scum invaders are launching missiles at civilian infrastructure and killing innocent people by the hundreds. They are accomplishing nothing more than mass murder.
     
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    You may be right that no Russian soldier has shot a Ukrainian civilian so far. In fact, that would not surprise me.

    But your military is bombing them and killing them from afar, both with targeted attacks and indescriminate attacks, such as those damned Grads you're firing into cities. ****ing war criminals.
     
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    Do we have someone from Russia here??.
     
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    Hackers changed the call sign of a Putin-linked superyacht to 'FCKPTN' and set the ship's destination as 'hell'
    Cheryl Teh
    Tue, March 1, 2022, 9:15 PM

    • Members of the "hactivist" collective Anonymous have messed with a superyacht believed to be owned by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    • The hackers changed the yacht's call sign to "FCKPTN" and the ship's destination to "hell."

    • "Now Putin's yacht is on the right track!" the group posted on Twitter, claiming credit for the hack.
    ... https://news.yahoo.com/hackers-changed-call-sign-putin-031556862.html

    :applause:
     
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    Pentagon official says Russian troops have 'deliberately punched holes' in their own gas tanks 'presumably' to avoid combat as morale declines: report
    Katie Balevic
    Tue, March 1, 2022, 3:38 PM

    • Some Russian troops are intentionally punching holes in their gas tanks, a Pentagon official said, per The New York Times.

    • The official said that many of the Russian troops are young and inexperienced, per the Times.

    • Some Russian troops are surrendering to Ukrainian forces as morale drops, Insider previously reported.
    ... https://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-official-says-russian-troops-213818317.html

    :truce:
     
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    Bet we see more of this now........;-)
     
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    You are right here.
    This is exactly what Russia is doing now: Russia f..ks ukranian war criminals.
     
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    You Olgino trolls are all alike.
     
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    How many Ukrainian towns and cities are going to be leveled to find these war criminals?
     
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    I haven't caught on all the posts here. Have our Putinistas claimed that the bombing of the Babi Yar memorial was a 'false flag' yet? If they haven't they probably will.

    Jenny was claiming yesterday that convoy heading toward Kyiv was bringing food because Ukrainians had looted it all. There is no depth they won't plumb.
     
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    I have said previously why a ground invasion and occupation would be terrible tactic by the Russians, but lets say you want to go down that route: is this how its done? In every modern conflict I'm aware of, you first try to take out an enemies air assets and aerial defenses, target their command and control, critical infrastructure, ...then you move in your troops. There is a lot about how Russia is fighting this war that is simply perplexing. To the point that I have to debate 3 possibilities: 1) Russian generals are clueless and incompetent, promoted based on loyalty and bureaucratic skills not merit; 2) they are intentionally misleading Putin, possibly because they have been bought off previously; 3) Putin isn't listening to his generals and deciding the moves himself without any real understanding of what he is doing.
     
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    There are no pets here. Ukraine is and has been an independent, equal country, neither an owner nor a pet. Same for Russia, I suppose, but I suppose they're the ones beating their neighbor's pet. I guess, it really makes no sense.

    Eh, who cares, I misunderstood your English? Understandable considering your first language it almost certainly Russian.
     
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    Is invading a sovereign nation the new way of dealing wit criminals?? This is making less sense all the time...........
     
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    Tactical blunders can have far reaching geopolitical consequences. I hope the Russians get their act together since the world doesn't need further uni-polar hegemony. As for the heroic resistance by Ukraine: Heroes often rise on the shoulders of blundering fools.

    On both tactical blunders with far reaching consequences and heroic resistance:

    The modern version of the "Persian Empire" (more accurately "Empire of Iran") ceased to be an empire except in name (until the Iranian revolution in 1979, the official name of the country was still the "Empire of Iran") in the 19th century after the Russo-Persian war of 1826-28. This war, regarded as the most disastrous war/defeat in modern Iranian history with far reaching territorial, political, and geopolitical consequences for Iran, actually even began brightly for Iran. It became an unmitigated disaster only later. And a promising campaign turned to a most significant defeat by Iran mainly by virtue of a mere tactical blunder, with Iran keeping the bulk of the Persian army busy trying to capture territory with clear natural defensive barriers in the siege of the largely inaccessible fortress of Shushi(Rus)/Shusha (Pers/Arm). This was an inexplicable tactical blunder since the Persian forces, even in the successful campaign to recapture Georgia in 1795, had already suffered heavy losses and met stiff resistance trying to capture this fortress. See, Heroic Defense of Shusha in 1795, and compare with Heroic Defense of Shushi in Russian military historians account of the battles of the 1826-28 Russo-Persian war.
     
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    The tactics of war.......are one thing...........but ow about the inhumanity of it ?? Look at the number of people who have no home now. This is like watching a horror story in slow motion.only it is real.

    UN reporting that over 700,000 Ukrainians have been forced to leave their country.
     
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    yes, but there will be a lot more people suffering from war or dying from it, and many more hopes and dreams simply crushed, without some semblance of balance of power globally.
     
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    Sounds like you are just noticing the inhumanity of war .. or rather -- noticing that it is on TV ... portrayed a certain way -- as in reality of war.. a thing that kind of went way of dinosaur after Vietnam

    Pakistan today was urged to join the other 22 nations condemning Russia --- All the nations were from the EU - along with Canada, Brits, US, Australia .. "the West" basically. the Pakistani minister pointed out the double-standard .. Calling out HR abuses .. in a cherry picked way - mentioning Israel and some other ..

    In many ways this is quite the clown show of hypocrisy - such that if one is not guffawing on a regular basis at the spoutings of Political Leaders and Pundits .. them don't have much of a sense of Justice - Golden Rule - and so on.
     
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    uhm isnt that basicle what the us does all the time (invade afghanistan for 1guy)
    invade iraq under false pretenses(secund war) bomb/support the bombing on yemen
    bombed lybia for no reason other then support the rebels

    don't you guys even have a law in the us to prevent people from showing up infront of the hague ?
     
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    Who are the real criminals?
    liberal democratic people
    EU people
    NATO people
    Nationalist people
    People who hated Russia in general and Putin in particular
     
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    Ah.... I believe what America did was immoral or illegal
    Therefore lets not talk about things Putin is doing which are immoral and illegal.
     
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