The 1/6 committee ups the ante.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jan. 6 committee says Trump violated multiple laws in effort to overturn election

    The Jan. 6 select committee says its evidence has shown that then-President Donald Trump and his campaign tried to illegally obstruct Congress’ counting of electoral votes and “engaged in a criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States.”

    In a major release of its findings, filed in federal court late Wednesday, the committee suggested that its evidence supported findings that Trump himself violated multiple laws by attempting to prevent Congress from certifying his defeat.

    “The Select Committee also has a good-faith basis for concluding that the President and members of his Campaign engaged in a criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States,” the committee wrote in a filing submitted in U.S. District Court in the Central District of California
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    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/02/jan6-trump-obstruction-justice-00013440

    It seems to me this evidence......."Characterizing excerpts of nearly a dozen depositions from top aides to Trump and former Vice President Mike Pence, the committee described a president who had been informed repeatedly that he lost the election and that his claims of fraud were unfounded".........has special significance.

    In large part because I had anticipated some difficulty with the Fulton County DA's case against Don. Based on the belief Don would claim he was genuinely delusional when he contacted GA officials about finding votes for him due to the misinformation aides were giving him about election fraud. The depositions obtained by the 1/6 committee make that defense untenable.

    Which is not to say this new information only has ramifications for the GA case. If Garland were to grow a pair at some point he could very well charge Don criminally for his leadership of the attempted coup. Going by Merrick's track record it seems unlikely he'd do that unless the evidence presented by the 1/6 committee is overwhelmingly compelling. And it just might be.
     
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    ShadowX Well-Known Member

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    Bahahahahah so we have no new evidence of anything trump did illegally.

    Thanks for the months and months of a giant nothingburger that will go nowhere lol
     
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  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At the least this puts more pressure on Merrick to open a criminal probe in to Individual 1's activities related to 1/6.
     
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    This is in response to Eastman’s lawsuit challenging his claim of attorney-client privilege on specific communications.

    Essentially they’re arguing the crime/fraud exception to get to that communication so they can do an in-camera review.

    It will be an interesting decision. They should have enough to get the review.

    In regard to Garland. I suspect the DOJ already has a case opened and are investigating. It’s not something they’d advertise but apparently that is the media consensus (they should shout it from the roof tops). They don’t and shouldn’t.
     
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  5. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd be surprised if the DoJ could open a criminal probe of Trump on the hush-hush but I guess it's possible. After all, the FBI kept Crossfire Hurricane a secret..........when if they had wanted to sink Trump's candidacy they could have let it leak.
     
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    Newly Public Jan. 6 Docs Show Eastman Calling For ‘Minor Violation’ Of Law

    In one more documentary exhibit, Eastman sends another final message to Jacob, advocating for “a relatively minor violation” of election law — justified by various technical violations of the Electoral Count Act that Eastman says happened after the attack, when members of Congress resumed their debate:

    So now that the precedent has been set that the Electoral Count Act is not quite so sacrosanct as was previously claimed, I implore you to consider one more relatively minor violation and adjourn for 10 days and allow the legislatures to finish their investigations, as well as to allow a full forensic audit of the massive amount of illegal activity hat has occurred here. If none of that moves the needle, at least a good portion of the 75 million people who supported President Trump will have seen a process that allowed the illegality to be aired.”

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...ow-eastman-calling-for-minor-violation-of-law

    The whole article is worth reading. It reveals the extent of the delusion Trump's minions, and of course Don, were operating under.
     
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    This is it folks!
    Trumps going to jail!
    @Lee Atwater
    I thought he was gonna go to jail for the meuller report hoax. Why is he still a free man?
    Is this the smoking gun that is gonna oit trump behind bars????
     
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  8. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump has escaped accountability for his legal, moral, and ethical violations to date. You folks tend to focus on that while I tend to focus on the evidence of his guilt.
     
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    Perhaps a better idea would be to adjourn until after the 2022 election.
     
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    What? You mean the 1/6 committee should adjourn?
     
  11. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought the e-mail exchange between Pence chief counsel Greg Jacob and Eastman (available in the article) was fascinating, and enlightening.
     
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    doJ
    Trump has done a lot of things that would qualify his being in jail. The problem is finding the one person who has the balls to put him there. There are so many trumpers with their red caps out there that it would truly be a threat to anyone's life that took on the task of prosecuting that pathetic piece of s***. Seems our present DoJ isn't the man for the job. All we can hope is some where is some one who will do it.
     
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    I believe Garland thought he was doing the right thing by not prosecuting Trump for obstructing Mueller's probe. Or perhaps he didn't want to be accused of making a politically based prosecution at a time when Biden was trying to heal the country. Just as not prosecuting members of the Bush admin for war crimes because Obama thought it would be divisive was a mistake, so too was Garland's decision. But, he may get another bite at the apple as other legal authorities pursue various charges against Individual 1.

    There was also this........https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/552271-fec-drops-investigation-into-trump-hush-money-payments

    .......when Don dodged another bullet.
     
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    You finally got one right.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why adjourn?
     
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    Yes, that's the tRumpublican goal, an ignorant electorate. God forbid the truth is laid bare for all to see. Can't have voters knowing what they're voting for.

    The GOP; keeping their minions in the dark and fed bullshit since Nixon-Watergate.
     
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    Yeah, what a coincidence that right after the committee releases evidence Trump committed multiple crimes there are calls for it to shut down.
     
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    Wait until you see all of the emails along a time line (Meadows, Hannity, Trump). The information was obviously shared widely.

    Edit to clarify: Trump tweet(not email), Add Scott Perry within email chain.
     
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  19. Lee Atwater

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    The question is; will any amount of incontrovertible evidence of Trump's guilt be enough to make The Following turn away from him? And if they do, what will the POT become in Trump's absence as its leader?
     
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    As I said in another recent post, this is simply their job and purpose. Did they actually file a charge in federal court??? something they have no authority to do?? Or did Pelosi tell them not to worry about Constitutional things.....???
     
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    I can't believe Garland is going to allow exceptions for certain lawbreakers. That's not constitutional nor right.
     
  22. Lee Atwater

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    Geez Rod, do you think the members of the committee are confused about what legal authority they do and don't possess? Their job IS to uncover all they can, issue their report, then let the public decide what to think and let Garland decide whether to prosecute.
     
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    True. But there's an undeniable political component in making a prosecutorial decision when it comes to a former prez and potential 2024 candidate to get his old job back.
     
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    Still, you turn a blind eye to corruption, it grows.
     
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    I would wish you luck in catching your wilder wild goose but it seems to be yet another waste.

    So I'll wish you luck in alienating the American people. I get that you think it was worse than ten holocausts. But most people recognize it as a largely benign riot.
     
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