China warns of 'worst consequences' for any country that supports Taiwan militarily

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  1. ShadowX

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    Yeah Beta Orourke says he believes in gun rights too. Just not all of them. So where’s your line? Should I be able to have an AK-47 or just a single shot muzzleloader? And to further illustrate whether you’re on the liberal or conservative side of the spectrum in regards to “gun rights” what’s the purpose of the second amendment?

    You’re pro life huh? Should a woman be charged with murder for having an abortion?
     
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    4 years of Trump set the stage for all this
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I said I was independent, not a pseudo-conservative with something to prove, - that's you, not me. Spare me from ridiculous assumptions, like a person can't be pro-life unless they want to charge women with murder. That's something that a raving islamist might suggest (or a RWNJ Republican). There are better ways to reduce abortion than imitating sharia law.

    I am pro-2A and pro life, and I support the other things (plus more) which I mentioned earlier. If you don't want to believe it, then so be it.
     
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    Bullcrap.

    Make your case. You will not even try. and try to make your case without calling me as Russian asset.
     
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    Did he actually call Taiwan a country? If he did that is either a huge faux pax or a breakthrough admission.
     
  6. Joe knows

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    Not sure where the article claims anyone called Taiwan a country
     
  7. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump weakened Ukraine with his nonsense quid pro quo, and tried to weaken NATO

    probably told Putin Ukraine would be easy cause he was upset that Ukraine did not create a fake investigation on Biden for him

    Trump withheld arms from Ukraine, ect....
     
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    goodlluck finding a phone that isnt atleast a part from china
     
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    All lies. Trump gave Ukraine lethal military aid. Obama did not. The "withheld' military aid was given to the Ukraine. So a lie.

    How did he weaken NATO? By having those countries spend more on national defense? Those countries increased defense spending by $50B a year while Trump was in office.

    https://americandefensenews.com/2020/11/03/pressed-by-trump-nato-increased-defense-spending-by-50-billion-annually-over-2016-rs-pc/#:~:text=Daniel Kochis writes that “In 2016, non-U.S. NATO,of France. “And that is just one year.

    Does increasing our own military spending by $100B make NATO weaker?

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/272473/us-military-spending-from-2000-to-2012/

    Same old nonsense.
     
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    This is what libos have resorted to. Mind reading and speculation at best.

    Since Biden and the democrats are trying to use this invasion of Ukraine to defer criticism for high gas prices and the economy can I assume Biden wanted the invasion and told Putin to go ahead?

    You are blaming inflation on Putin. Shamelessly using the suffering of the Ukraine people for political gain.
     
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    after he was forced to after getting caught, Trump doesn't get credit for that

    everyone knows Trump tried to weaken NATO
     
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    But how did that make Ukraine weak? They got the aid! Of course you failed to mention that.

    Why did Obama-Biden-Clinton allow Putin to annex Crimea? Should they be arrested? You are the tough talkers about Putin and your heroes just let him take over a part of Ukraine. Was losing Crimea making Ukraine stronger? Was doing nothing when Putin invaded Donbas in 2014 making Ukraine stronger?

    So they should all be arrested right?
     
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    Are we going to dispense with the bullcrap? We have Barack Hussein Obama colluding with Russia on video!



    The subject was NATO missiles in Europe! So please lecture us about making NATO weaker or kissing up to Russia. Obama was acting like best friends with these people. But it goes further. Because he said he would be easier to negotiate with after reelection was he implying that he wanted Russian help in the election?

    Come on tough talking bullcrap artists. Obama should at least be doing time in a federal prison.
     
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    bad policy is one thing, trying to use a foreign country to cheat in an election is another
     
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    Obama massaging the testicles of the Russian president was more than bad policy. It was collusion.

    You think we should bankrupt ourselves providing free national security to rich white nations? What if we only spent $250B a year on defense instead of $766B? We would be like Germany. What could we do with with that extra $500B?

    So Trump advocates for our country and tries to make NATO stronger and he is hated for that? How idiotic.
     
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    So is trying to pass off a fabricated and debunked LW conspiracy theory as fact.

    FAIL
     
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    Trump was constantly praising Putin, congratulated him for winning his fake "election" (after being advised against), and fought against sanctions on Russia. The only time he ever sanctioned Russia is when there was a veto-proof majority and his signature didn't even matter, and even then he bitched about it. He never did anything to sanction Russia other than drag his pathetic Sharpie across a piece of paper that it didn't even matter if he signed.
     
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    So these are your requirements for being independent? Hilarious. By your logic, Trump is a raging far leftist.
     
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    What a lie. What about Nord steam 2? Trump sanctioned it and Biden took them away.

    Biden should be arrested and executed then right?

    https://www.statesman.com/story/new...k-did-trump-biden-sanction-russia/6735826001/

    Keep trying. You voted for a weak pathetic pos lying president and now you try damage control. It will not work.
     
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    Don't know how you got "executed" out of any of that, but you are right, you picked the ONE AND ONLY example of Trump supporting sanctions against Russia without having his arm twisted. I'll admit that I was mistaken: there is one, and only one, exception to what I said.

    Meanwhile, Biden loosened up on Nord 2 by GERMANY'S request, not Russia's, and it is now off the table.

    I voted 3rd party. Check the post history. And no American politician has lied more than the one you are now defending. Trump had no power to remove the Magnitsky Act, though his campaign did use that as an excuse for meeting with Russians to discuss dirt on Clinton (which Trump later helped cover up). You need Congress for that. Speaking of Congress, they were responsible for the sanctions you credit Trump for. BOTH ****ING PARTIES supported those sanctions, by well over 90%. Trump never lead any effort there, and his signature didn't matter. And he even complained about having to sign sanctions against Russia. And, as a reminder, the ONLY change to his party's platform that his campaign requested, was to go easier on Russia. That's it. Full stop. And Trump illegally held back the same aid you are praising him for providing . . . when, again, he had no real say in the first place. Keep trying. You voted for a weak, pathetic POS lying president and now you are projecting your damage control onto others. It will not work.
     
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    2 Years of Biden and we are dealing with all the dictators doing as they please since they are incredibly emboldened not having a weak president in office . . . SAD!
     
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    lol, sure, Trump was the only one doing that and still is
     
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    Pretty sure it wasn’t trump who told Putin to give him until after the election because he’d have a lot more flexibility then.

    Moreover your description of what occurred is just painfully incorrect. Trump and his admin sanctioned Russia 50+ times and the ONE time you can point to where he EVER bitched about ANY of those sanctions being put in place was the first one. And he didn’t bitch about imposing the sanctions, he bitched about the accompanying legislation which restricted the executive branch’s powers.
     
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    Nice try. We have your hero colluding with Russia on video. No need for a Mueller investigation. He should be arrested and tried for treason now.
     
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    No those are the first two of the ones that he mentioned.

    Keep up
     

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