Hundreds of Yale Law Students Disrupt Bipartisan Free Speech Event

so some were upset that we have religious freedom in this country and that all religions should accept that everyone has a right to believe whatever they want to believe?

or was it this?

"religious exemptions from civil rights laws,"

as in the right to be racist towards others.....

 

is this true? does the ADF support forced sterilization or not?

"The "hate group" label was placed on ADF by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which says the group defends "the state-sanctioned sterilization of trans people." That accusation is based on a 2015 brief the ADF filed with the European Court of Human Rights, arguing that EU member states should be allowed to make medical transition a prerequisite for changing one's legal gender. On its website, the Alliance Defending Freedom explicitly "condemns forced sterilization of any person.""

 

if a group was talking about forced sterilization of Christians, I think we would see some upset about that too


so I agree with "My Rights end at the tip of your nose". Or "My Rights end where yours begins", but if a group on the right is pushing for forcing mandatory forced sterilization, ect... that seems pretty over the edge

 

your rights end when it violates another's rights

 

No doubt they would be. But if they did the same thing as these "law students" I'd still be saying the same thing. I don't care which side of the aisle you're on. But the only time I see this behavior is from those on the left.

Let them. Let everyone see what idiots they are. Like they say, "I will defend your Right to say anything, even if I disagree with it". So long as they commit no crimes while espousing the idiocies then they can be ignored.

And ignoring them is actually more effective than what these Yale students did. If they had done nothing this wouldn't have made it to the news. And no one would have even known about this little get together. As it stands now a lot more people know what was going on. Including the message those speakers were trying to send out.

 

the problem is, if no one speaks up, these atrocities can happen, look at what Hitler did to the Jews

 

Lol..This is laughable coming from the gang that worships trump and his whiny cancel culture and dreams of his eternal control over their lives.
Right wingers are forever trying to jam their hateful, paranoid notions down America’s throat but people are fed up with their tactics and miserable rhetoric. Eternal paranoia and hate is tiresome.

 

You don't fix a problem by violating Rights. That just creates more problems. Problems not unlike those caused by Hitler. Hitler rose to power because he advocated for violating people's Rights. And he did so by making a group out to be something that was not deserving of being treated as equal. As not deserving of Rights.

How is that any different than what these Yale students did? Treating these speakers as not deserving of thier Rights by getting them shut down through use of threats and intimidation. Don't you think that would be straight out of Hitlers playbook when he started his rise to power?

 

and if these people advocated for forced sterilizations, they were the ones pushing to violate people's rights

a public event risks protests vs a private event

saying only one side has a right to speak in public is denying the other side the right to speak

 

Speaking for it, and getting it done are two completely different things. I can speak about going to the moon until I'm blue in the face. Doesn't mean I'll reach it.

Again, you don't fix this problem by violating people's Rights. I'm not going to repeat everything I just said. Everything you just skipped to say the same thing you already said once. If all you're going to do is repeat the same thing over and over then I guess we are done. Unless you can present an argument against what I said without repeating yourself?

 

Can you show where they actually advocated for forced sterilization?

And this group did deny them their right to speak in public by shouting them down

 

I see you edited your post.

No one is suggesting that the Yale students, or anyone else, have no Right to protest. But that is not all that they did is it? They used intimidation and threats to get the event shut down. That they do not have a Right to do. Again, you cannot use your Rights to violate other people's Rights.

I have a Right to own a gun, I cannot use that Right to take another person's Right to Life away just because I disagree with them. Just like I do not have a Right to use my speech to use intimidation and threats to prevent other people from speaking.

 

I am fully in favor of protests outside the auditorium whic do not inhibit the communication of the invited speaker and his audience.
But I am not a fan of heckling an invited speaker. The speaker's ideas and arguments do not get developed, expanded, and presumably someone decided that they wanted to hear a speaker make a speech on the topic announced since that was advertised . I am in favor of an orderly question and answer period with questions from the audience, including any protesters who allowed the actual event to proceed. You can't shout down the invited speaker with chants and insults without depriving his audience of the opportunity to hear him and presumably get what they bargained for if they bought a ticket.

 

So why are you privileging the speakers right to speak and not the protesters right to be heard? Can’t very well hear when there’s a soundproof wall in the way.

 

Would you advocate that protestors be allowed to interrupt a Congressional hearing that is open to the public? Or should they stand outside to give their protest? Can't very well hear when there's a soundproof wall in the way, by your logic that is preventing their right to protest.

LINK: Congressional Hearings | govinfo

 

Sure. Why not?

 

Would you advocate that I could erase your post and speak over it?

If not why not?

It's exactly what you're advocating in this scenario

 

I’m glad your idea of free speech means I can use mine to shut down someone else’s. Awesome.

Only one more step until you folks are advocating for violence against the other side and arguing it’s okay.

It’s almost time for the rednecks to start coming out of the wood work.

 

Are you under the impression that making medical transition a prerequisite is somehow forced sterilization?

Please. By all means explain.

 

I can't, I only asked if it was true that this group wanted to force anyone getting a sex change be sterilized - why did I ask, cause it is in the ops article

"2015 brief the ADF filed with the European Court of Human Rights, arguing that EU member states should be allowed to make medical transition a prerequisite for changing one's legal gender."

so we should force the people to be silent that were protesting them, silence them?

 

No where did it say anything about forcing sterilization.

Pretty sure if you get a sex change becoming sterile is a natural side effect of that.

 

yes, if they were speaking for it, people might get upset, that was the point

 

so some speech can the threatening.... I agree

 

Looks like someone is advocating violence..

 

Looks like someone is reaching...