450 Arab and foreign extremists (Al-Qaeda) from Idlib arrive in Ukraine

Oh but it IS true. The US and Israel have long employed ISIS and AQ as assets in their strategy and tactics.

 

We supported terrorists in Syria and Nazis in Ukraine. No difference!

Well, Kadyrovs Chechens are now in the center of Mariupol fighting the Azov Nazis who are embedded at the top of a residential building and helping the people to escape. True to form, they can't resist videoing their military prowess for all to see. Boy would they love to get a whole of the terrorists. They made a vow in 1998 to kill them all.

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/stat...me-tsetsenous-na-epicheiroun-stin-marioupoli/

 

Russia's not hiring anyone, 16 thousand battle hardy men from Syria and even Africa asked if they could fight for Russia out of gratitude for their help in Syria, as well as for the respect Russia has shown them. Also they hate the white supremacism of the Natiionalists in Ukraine and how they treat others.

Putin gave the okay about a week ago. Since then the amount of volunteers have increased immensely.

 

I would hate to see Ukraine end up with a bunch of score settling civil outcasts!

 

pURE BULLSHIT BY cARSON!!!

 

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!! Thanks Jeannette, that's funny IMHO. "out of gratitude", hahahahahahaha!

 

It is a gratitude that you cannot appreciate, cannot understand.

 

And this^^^ smells and sounds like B/S propaganda.

 

The only place where ISIS and AQ are employed in Israel is the Israeli Parlament - The Arab "Raam / Balad" party.

 

So a party that was part of the "Arab List" wants their homeland back. This is like calling Native Americans foreigners in the United States. Hey, maybe the solution is to give back Palestine/Israel to the Ottoman Empire, aka Turkey now.

 

It was never their homeland.
Learn history.

 

Yes it was according to international law.

And the Bible, especially Genesis, Exodus, and Joshua will not help you either. Who do you think they were fighting to begin with once they left Egypt?

 

No .. it wasn't.
Even the Quran says that The holy land belongs to the Jews.
Israel took back Judea and Samaria in 1967 from Jordan !! not from the so called "Palestinians".

 

In Islam, Jeruselem is the third most sacred city in the Islamic faith. Second, the Quran does not mention that Israel belongs to the Jews. In the link below are excepts of the Quran, translated into English, mentioning Jews. In some cases, they are the children of the book and in other cases, they are the cow, the dinner table, the elevated places, etc. It is mostly allegorical in nature. For instance, in Sura 17: 104, it says "And We said to the Israelites after him: Dwell in the land: and when the promise of the next life shall come to pass, we will bring you both together in judgment." The verse is basically stating that live where you live and if you do not heed the "true prophet," then we will bring you to judgement.

That is not what they owned the land means, does it. It's been interpreted that way, the way you described, by some, but not all just like people who interpret the Bible into almost anything they want. Both the Bible and the Quran are mostly allegorical, not a literal vis a vis interpretation.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/references-to-jews-in-the-koran


And We said to the Israelites after him: Dwell in the land: and when the promise of the next life shall come to pass, we will bring you both together in judgment.

 

That's why Jerusalem is Not mentioned even once in the Quran ?
Maybe that's the reason why Muslims pray to Mecca while their behinds ( a$$es ) towards Jerusalem.

 

I don't think you understand Islam, or even Christianity, for that matter.

The reason why Jeresulem is the third most holy city is because of the Al-Aqsa Mosque. Al-Aqsa Mosque, it's significant for three things. First, Isra and Miraj, the transportation of Muhammad into Al-Aqsa, second, it was the site in 624 and 625 AD where they turned towards after reaching Mecca for prayer, and finally, Jeresulem is mentioned significantly in various hadiths, a talk or discourse of a record words, actions, or silent approval of the prophet Mohommad through his chain of narrators.

In Christianity, Jeresulem is important as well because that is literally where the death of Jesus occurred and where it was the center of the very early days of Christianity until it moved to Rome by the end of the 3rd century AD.

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/jerusalems-role-as-a-holy-city-for-muslims/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Aqsa_Mosque#cite_note-17th2-61

 

Salem "Jerusalem" Does have a long and sordid past .. doesn't it -- and I know MGB is always up for a good tale - wanting to expand horizons.

So 3 religions - all claiming to believe in the God of Abraham .. so why is "Salem" important .. the name of the town prior to the Israelites taking over .. King David under the banner of YHWH .. but he keeps the head Priest of the Canaanite city .. who becomes the head Priest of Solomon. .. name is Zadok -- pay attention now because Names .. and especially names of Kings are important .. most often being named after the chief God of the city.

Now the name of the Canaanite King when David takes over is Adoni-zedek .. the Zedek part being the name of the Patron God of Salem.

The name means Zedek is Lord .. or Lord of Righteousness .. Zedek was the God of Righteousness and Justice .. the term "Prince of Peace" will come up later..

Some 4-500 years earlier .. round the time of Hamurrabi .. is our friend Abe .. who has come into Canaan .. and some cities have battled .. Abe's side being the victor .. Salem on Abe's side - the Canaanites are friends not enemies at this time.

Now the Canaanite King of Salem comes out to Greet and Meet with Abe .. his name is .. you guessed it "Melchi-Zedek" translated "King of Righteousness" - "my God is Righteousness" .. the "Prince of Peace himself" -- some figure this dude was an incarnation of Jesus.. but I digress. Melchi-zedek is the Priest King of Salem .. both High Priest - and King.

Now Abe and Melchizedek go through this ritual -- making sacrifices to the most high God - and Abe gives a tithe of 10% to Melchizedek.

So 1) Canaanite high God that Melchizedek is worshiping .. is the same God as Abe ! things that make ya go .. hmmm

but it gets better 2) that God is not YHWH .. the high God they are worshiping is "El" (Enlil) Chief God of the Sumerian/Akkadian Pantheon .. who by this time have split into Babylonians and Assyrians ... but also Chief God of the Canaanites - Elamites - Moabites - and every other people in the near east.

Now this is all Encyclopedia Brittanica .. go look up Abe if you have a doubt .. they will tell you the same thing .. the name of the God being worshiped is EL .. no secret to modern scholarship .. and not debated in serious circles.

Now remember that these folks believe in many Gods .. but Zedek is the Patron God of Salem ... this cool God of Justice and Righteousness .. and when David takes over .. keeps this Priest .. who later is high Priest of Solomon. Solomon of course is building temples to all kinds of Gods .. including a few child sacrifice "high places" as the Israelites at this time were not monotheistic .. believed in the existence of many Gods .. but supposed to be worshiping only one "monolateralism" I think is the term .. Not that the Israelits were doing this .. as they were polytheistic at the time .. worshiping many Gods .. as they always had been .. as the Bible tells us.

But in any case . . Jerusalem is clearly important .. being the first city we know of in the Bible to worship the God of Abraham. Just turned out that everyone at that time in the near east regards this same God as the Most High .. so the same can be said about every city at this time ..

The problem here however .. is that the God that these 3 religions believe in .. is not the God of Abraham.

"and now you know - The rest of the story"

 

This is why I believe that if you ask a simple religious question to 100 people, you will get 110 different interpretations.

 

That is true - a function of dogma - each group having their own .. Within Christianity you get a different answer depending on who you ask .. dogma differing from one denomination to the other .. never mind asking a Christian and a Jew the same question.

This is why this particular question is interesting though . as you will not get a different answer - all will answer the same to the question "Do you worship the God of Abraham" 1) Yes 2) Yes 3) Yes

The sordid irony, is that the one thing they all agree on .. is wrong The name of Abraham's God was not YHWH .. not Allah ..so none of these 3 religions worship the God of Abraham

 

Even with your simple question, the answer is not as simple. The Jew would say yes. The Christian would say maybe, and the Muslim would say Abraham is not the prophet of Allah.

I tried that question and that was the result I got. Of course, this was awhile back before 9/11 happened.

 

Nope .. all agree that their God is the God of Abraham . A Muslim claiming Abe was not a prophet of Allah would be branded a Heritic and have tongue cut out in the land of Liberty "El Saud"

A wiki Blurb -

According to the Islamic faith, Abraham (Arabic: إِبْرَاهِيْمُ, romanized: ʾIbrāhīm pronounced [ʔɪbraːˈhiːm]) was a prophet and messenger[2][3] of God, and an ancestor to the Ishmaelite Arabs and Israelites.[2][4] Abraham plays a prominent role as an example of faith in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.[2] In Muslim belief, Ibrahim fulfilled all the commandments and trials wherein God nurtured him throughout his lifetime. As a result of his unwavering faith in Allah, Ibrahim was promised by Allah to be a leader to all the nations of the world

 

The point is how do you define the God of Abraham. Only Muslim say that he was a prophet of Allah, not THE Prophet of Allah.

What seperates the three major religions is who is the True Prophet of Allah. Christianity would say Jesus Christ. Jews would say he has not come yet And Muslims would say it's Mohammad. If you thnk the question logicially of Do you worship the God Of Abraham, the question then becomes what is God of Abraham actually saying on how to worship Him. Hence my point.

 

can you please give fair warning when you post I just snorted tea onto my keyboard.....again.....

 

Thats all fine and well .. but not talking about "Prophets" .. a subject on which again there is much disagreement .. just the simple fact is that the all claim to worship the same "God of Abraham"

Now what this God says .. that is a completely different question- yeilding you a gazillion different answers .. hence my rule of thumb "No Human Speaks for God"