""Republicans block bill requiring dark money groups to reveal donors"

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    archives Well-Known Member

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    Excuse the language, but that is bullsh*t, there are always going to be fringe individuals who will attack others for political stands, look at the common poll workers in Georgia who received death threats after the 2020 election just for working that day

    And you are missing the point, currently billions in anonymous funds are flooding into American elections, and it is incomprehensible why anyone would want to keep this money secret
     
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    The legislation is revealing the names of donations of ten grand or more, ten grand is not a “small donor”
     
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    Ironic note to this thread is that the few objections to make any donation over $10,000 transparent are arguing the fear of local yocal contributors being harassed by the opposing side. Ten grand isn’t a common man’s contribution

    But more importantly, what has been missed, is the probability with this protected secrecy that foreign countries and entities are heavily involved in our elections, especially America’s adversaries. This is exactly the warning Obama gave after the Citizens United decision

    In addition, it allows for the buying and selling of Judges, which should be a major concern
     
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    Amazing how some many just don’t get it no matter how many times it has been explained

    The Open Secret’s list of donors copied here, and the Huffington Post article, both of which your argument is based upon, lists those contributions and contributors that we know, that aren’t anonymous. The legislation under consideration here addresses those contributions and contributors that we don’t know, that are anonymous.

    No one said eliminate big money donors, rather, make public all of them, and the amounts they contribute to candidates. One would have to be totally naive to think foreign entities aren’t heavily involved financially in our elections, which this legislation, which the GOP opposes, would address
     
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    Why? So people can excercise their rights free of harassment by the leftist smear machine.
     
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    Umm...yea they realized dark money was out of control so they made a bill to disclose those amounts. Why do you think they tried to pass the bill? So that they could continue to hide it? Boy the RNC has made you believe some outlandish things.
     
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    Why don't you know ;) I'm sure both parties are quite aware of who they are :) You're right, naivety does play into it and clearly stupidity walks hand in hand with it :)
     
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    I don't care who the donors are. Everyone has the same constitutional rights in this country, regardless of how rich, or poor they are.
     
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    Clearly the DNC has made you believe they can't divulge or know all the known donors but just a few :) I laugh at how they parade that right in front of their base and their base is oblivious to it :)
     
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    LMAO, and yet they are receiving the lion's share of it, and you are not even the slightest bit curious about what that means, money wise lolol
     
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    Yes, which is why they proposed a bill to require disclosure of donors. But for whatever reason you believe proposing a bill means they are against it...

    What does it mean money wise since they bill isn't aimed out restricting dark money contributions?
     
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    And yet they all know and they all stay silent about it LMFAO
     
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    What on earth are you talking about? This bill is aimed at Super PACs who donate to RNC and DNC. The DNC doesn't have a list of SUper PAC donors because they are not associated with each other. Is this what is being discussed on real news website lol!!!!
     
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    Because we are at WAR.

    You really think Republicans would be stupid enough to give names of people for liberal Democrats to annoy and harass?

    Liberal Democrats NEED to start taking this war, and their enemy, seriously. Or we will get steamrolled.
     
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    With every right comes responsibility. Remember money equals speech these days. Nondisclosure is simply a way to evade responsibility for your speech.

    The vote and thread response is typical for our rightwing snowflakes. Concocting excuses for their inability to take responsibility for their behavior.
     
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    There's no such thing as "dark money". That's just another term the Leftists made up to try and freak people out like assault weapons, or high capacity magazines.
     
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    Dark money was a term created by a nonpartisan organization, although righties classify nonpartisan organizations as left for whatever reason.

    Are you okay with China donating millions of dollars in our elections and hiding their identity?
     
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    Think about it, why doesn't the DNC just start release all the names of those super donors :) I'm sure you MUST know they know who they are ;)

    Tell your reps to reveal their donor and swear they will never take another nickel of their dirty money :)

    Oh and tell us all who they are ALL OF THEM!
     
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    Lot of truth to that..
     
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    I don't think right wing media has explained how Super PACs or dark money works, which is why you are confused. First of all, Super PACs do disclose their donors as required by law. However, the workaround is that in citizens united, non-profit groups are not required to disclose their donors. This means people can create shell companies and take in donations from Iran, China, Cuba, Venezuela. Because they are non-profits, they don't have to show where those donations came from. These non-profits then pump millions of dollars into these Super PACs. All these Super PACS have to disclose is the identity of the non-profit who made a donation.

    I hope this helps shed more light on a process the right wing media keeps getting wrong.
     
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    Ah, well that explains your position, now doesn't it LMFAO :) I don't subscribe to right wing media, in fact media never plays in to what I post other than when I need citations proving the stupidity of the DNC :) Although you clearly seem to put some weight "Good or bad" into what they say ;)

    The only problem we are having is the hypocrisy the DNC pass under their voter bases nose! They clearly benefit from the same money, but their base clearly doesn't see that.

    Oh but they want to expose those folk at the top of the secrete money, the DNC base want to reduce that amount by disclosing them "Donors" that don't wish to be known..
     
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    Clearly they do as evidence by this bill. Your position that dems don't want this bill to pass even though all 49 voted for it. Basically, in your minds, dems proposed a bill voted for said bill, but don't actually want it to pass lol!!!
     
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    So you think they need a bill to expose the donors donating to their party, LMFAO :) Seriously, you don't see the irony here hahahah ;)
     
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    Yes. Let's follow the money and expose deep state.
     
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    Yup, it's just that easy! If the DNC or GOP were really interested in making those donor known, they would simply make them known :)
     
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