Raphael Warnock’s Church Pays for His Home. It’s Also Trying To Evict the Poor From Theirs

It explains the legal reason people were evicted.

 

The good news for you and him, is that while there may be a duty to give to those less fortunate, nobody gets to tell you who you have to be charitable to, and who you should not. If he was the richest man on the planet, and if he owned the building outright, and if he was souly responsible for deciding whether to forgive the debt or evict, its still not your place to assign an obligation on him to make this problem go away for this one individual. He gets to decide to decide who to help with his resources, based on his criteria, not yours. If he'd prefer to take that same amount and post a check to the National Diabetes Association, or the Humane Society, and not give it to that man, thats none of your friggin business.

But you Blues, if you feel this guy is worth charity, can open up your wallet and provide it. I know I definitely would not without knowing a hell of a lot more about him than the mere fact he has an eviction notice and owes his landlord some cash. You haven't even convinced me that it ought to be done, let alone that Warnock has to be the one to do it.

 

This is a church which owns and operates it as a CHARITABLE OPERATION under the law and receives taxpayer money so that the disadvantage can live there. He runs the church and gets a $120,000 salary plus his $80,000 a year "housing allowence", in other words a FREE HOUSE after about 3 years. One of the persons they tried to evict was behind by less than $25.

It reflects on his professed concern for the poor and helpless and his compassion he claims.

 

They were behind on their rents. One person less than $25. One put the wrong account number fixed in the next day but still got an eviction notice.

 

Read the OP article then.

??? so you don't support him

 

He's not a missionary off on some mission. It is a vastly predominately black church in a poor area. He gets a $120,000 salary AND the $80,000 housing allowence a year and no I don't know that you statement that quite a number get that exorborant housing allowence and shame on them too if they do and then try to evict poor people out of apartments they run for amounts below $25 in a missed payment.

Your second point has nothing to do with this.

 

I went searching and have found no statement from Warnock. But I did find cases where they made their late payments and were not evicted in the end. The story isn't a good one for Warnock, to be sure - but all I'm reading are stories by right wing pundits and Walker himself. I think a little balance on the issue is required for me to determine Warnock is a scumbag.

 

I understand that was the reason. My point is that this is a low income apartment complex. And we don't know the whole story. Low income areas have more problems and sometimes the easiest way to get rid of bad tenants is to evict due to lack of payment. I doubt they want good tenants to leave. I am surmising...but we don't know the full story.

 

Let me know when Warnock says that.

 

ROFLMAO of course you are not hearing about it on the MSM.

 

Please share his statements on the issue on the sites you frequent - I am genuinely interested in his responses to the accusations.

 

Many large churches pay for the housing for their ministers. Some fifth the house to a retiring priest if he has many years in service. Industry also gives things or memberships, stocks, etc as compensation and inducements to retire. So BFD.

 

I didn't make a claim. I asked a question. That question was why did you post the article in the first place?

 

For the apartment complex to be charitable under church rules, the rent has to be below market value. That's it. The rest is based on the agreement between the landlord, the tenet, and if there is one, a property management company. So again, they were behind, the question is how long as that been? A year? Two years? A few months? We don't know because no one knows that answer, do they?

 

And that has been approved by the members of the Church and their budget meeting on an annual basis Blues. If the members of the church want to give him that, isn't that their prerogative? All the law says is reasonable. And that is not based on a singular number but quite a number of factors per IRC 162, Treasury Regulation 1.162-7, and several tax court cases. You might want to look at this link for further education.

And yes, the second point has everything to do with my retort to your post. It is an example of how churches, especially protestant churches, decide on how to pay what to whom, etc. Since you are an atheist, you don't know and this was more of an education for you than anything else.

https://www.churchlawandtax.com/cltr/2018/july-august/setting-reasonable-compensation.html

 

I read it, then I looked up the 990 and made my own determination. And based on the 990 filings there is nothing wrong that I see.

I don't live in Georgia. i will let the residents of Georgia decide who they vote for. All I was pointing out was articles about Hershall Walker. Remember, he has made numerous claims about his businesses, his marriage, his academic accomplishments, etc. And it turns out that none of them, or most of them are not true based on the articles that were posted over the last couple of months.

 

You most certainly did and I gave you a more than fair opportunity to support it or retract it.

 

Thanks for that. Although it doesn't really address the current situation. We know he is against evicting the poor in Georgia from his tweet. Now if we could just find his reaction to this latest situation, we'd know if he is a hypocrite or not.

 

He's got nothing to say that would mitigate it.

 

Does that mean he hasn't said anything about this particular situation (which was my initial request), or that you feel there is nothing he can say about it that you will accept?

 

Georgia Launches Investigation Into Warnock’s Church Following Free Beacon Report

Georgia has launched an investigation into a charity controlled by the church that pays Sen. Raphael Warnock (D., Ga.) a $7,417 monthly housing allowance and owns an apartment building that is trying to evict tenants, the Washington Free Beacon has learned.

The Georgia Secretary of State Office's Securities and Charities Division on Wednesday sent a letter to Ebenezer Building Foundation demanding that the charity explain why it is operating in the state without an active registration. The Ebenezer Building Foundation has reported in each of its Form 990 tax returns filed with the IRS since 2011 that it is registered to operate as a charity in Georgia. But the Georgia Securities and Charities Division told the Free Beacon that Warnock's charity is not registered with state authorities.

Ebenezer Building Foundation identifies Warnock as its principal officer in its Form 990s and says it delegates all management duties to Ebenezer Baptist Church, where Warnock pulls a salary on top of a lucrative tax-free housing allowance as he serves in the Senate.

"The Division's records indicate that Ebenezer Building Foundation … is not registered as a charitable organization with the State of Georgia," an attorney with the Georgia Securities and Charities Division wrote in the letter to Kenneth Palmer, a member of the Ebenezer Baptist Church Board of Trustees.

The letter warned Palmer, who also serves as the chairman of Ebenezer Building Foundation, that soliciting charitable contributions and operating a charitable organization in Georgia without an active registration or an applicable exemption are violations of state law and will subject the charity to administrative penalties....

.....Warnock campaign manager Quentin Fulks on Thursday responded to the Free Beacon‘s reporting, calling it a "desperate" attack on the "spiritual home of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr." in a statement to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. The Warnock campaign did not dispute any of the facts reported by the Free Beacon.
https://freebeacon.com/democrats/ge...warnocks-church-following-free-beacon-report/

 

Oh do show that his salary is average and hisnhiusing allowence meets the criteria which the IRS says must reflect the hours served at the church.
https://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=...f+a+minister+in+Georgia+and+hiusing+allowence

"Your housing allowance is also limited to an amount that represents reasonable pay for your ministerial services. That means that if you only work ten hours a week at the church, then you cannot claim a $50,000 housing allowance. I don’t think the IRS would consider $100 an hour “reasonable” compensation for your service.


Remember, also, that those services only include ministerial services. If you are a bi-vocational minister, you can only claim a housing allowance from your ministerial income. If your expenses can justify it, though, you could claim your entire ministerial income as a housing allowance and use your secular income for all of your other expenses. Also, it doesn’t matter how you are paid for your ministerial services. Whether it’s by W-2 or 1099 does not matter."
https://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=...f+a+minister+in+Georgia+and+hiusing+allowence
And your your you must be a person of religious faith to understand tax law is laughable it apparently hasn't helped you.

 

Herschel Walker Shocks His Critics at Debate With Raphael Warnock, Resets Race.



Leftwing Atlanta Journal-Constipation: 'That was the most coherent I've ever seen Herschel Walker, prepared, aggressive, direct.'

Warnock: "A patient's room is too ... cramped a space for a woman, her doctor, and the US government."
Walker: "There's a baby in that room as well."

'Walker pressed Warnock on his support for Joe Biden and his inability to make positive change for Georgians. It was another good segment for the Republican candidate.'

WALKER: “For those of you who are concerned about voting for me — a non-politician — I want you to think about the damage politicians like Joe Biden and Raphael Warnock have done to this country.” #GASenDebate

KEEPING IT REAL:

Herschel Walker to Raphael Warnock: "You continue to pat yourself on the back, but right now families are starving."

'The common theme with Walker’s approach tonight was aggression. He did not show up to play defense, and I think that played to his advantage. Instead of sitting back and waiting for the moderator and Warnock to hit him on his scandals, he kept pressing Democrat policy failures at every turn. It completely shifted the debate in Walker’s favor, again, something almost no one thought was possible.'

He'll make a fine GOP Senator if given the opportunity. RCP projects that the GOP picks up this seat in the Dec 6 runoff.

'Things got so bad that' Bug-Eyed 'Warnock actually refused to answer whether he’d support Joe Biden in 2024.'

Walker, one of the finest offensive players to ever play football brought his A-game and immediately put Warnock back on his heels. 'Warnock wasn’t ready for much of what he faced at this debate. That includes questions about a report that his church pays him over $7,000 a month for a “housing allowance” while they evict people over a few hundred dollars in late rent.'

WALKER WARNS WARNOCK ABOUT BEARING FALSE WITNESS

Walker: "He won't answer that about evicting the people from the church.."
Warnock: "We have not evicted those tenets."
Walker: "He's now telling you 'I didn't evict anyone.' It is written in the paper!..Senator, you did! It's okay to speak the truth. Do not bear false witness!

'Warnock muffed his answer on the Atlanta Braves, Georgia’s beloved MLB team.'

'Georgia Democrat Raphael Warnock is asked if the Atlanta Braves should “rethink their name, their logo, or their signature cheer.” Warnock won’t say.'

WARNOCK IS A WARD OF JOE BIDEN:

WALKER: “Warnock said he stood up. He has NOT stood up to Biden.” “If he was standing up, he wouldn’t have voted with him 96% of the time, which gave us” an open border, high inflation, and crime in the streets. #GASenDebate

'Do Georgians want to re-elect another “yes” vote for inflation, illegal immigration, abortion until birth, and a crumbling foreign policy? If they do, they’ll vote for Warnock. If they don’t, they’ll vote for Walker.'

'Walker’s unexpected performance might have just guaranteed a run-off, and possibly puts an outright win back on the table. That’s a far cry from where things stood just a week ago. I guess the lesson here is to never doubt a candidate who puts in the time to prepare. Warnock showed up with his tired, canned lines and Walker showed up ready to do battle. For that, the latter will likely be rewarded.'

 

Walker is a tool that will do anything his billionaire donors tell him to do. He has no ideas, no philosophy, no vision, no passion. Just went into politics because he was told he can make money from being a dancing puppet.