Gavin Newsom's reparations committee will recommend handing out $223,200 per person to all descendan

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Better not to spend it at all other than to reduce debt.
     
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    It would be fairly straightforward to identify descendents of slaves with DNA.
     
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    Would it? That seems like a tough call without genealogical records back up.
     
  4. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here’s an interesting opinion from the NY Post.

    Black families need fathers — not reparations for slavery

    Over the past 50 years, progressives and self-appointed black leaders have fooled many Americans. They’ve fooled them into believing that the economic, health, and educational disparities plaguing our community are the result of racial injustices, white privilege and systemic racism. For this foolish crowd, the reparations movement — which this week gained traction with the formation of a Reparations Commission in my hometown of St. Paul, Minn. — is yet another effort to obscure the real ailments impacting blacks while siphoning off billions of dollars toward themselves and an never-ending class of government dependent families.

    Rather than demand reparations, black Americans should seek legal damages from left-wing institutions — along with their allies in the media and academia — who’ve helped destroy the black family while producing a culture of pervasive victimhood.

    Because despite their very real consequences, the biggest cause of black inequality isn’t slavery or red-lining or Jim Crow — it’s our community’s dependency on social welfare programs and the fatherless families they continue to subsidize. Established as part of Pres. Johnson’s “Great Society,” these programs paved the way for the dissolution of the traditional black family.

    In 1965, the late New York Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan called the then 24% unmarried birth rate in the black community a “crisis.” Moynihan wrote at the time that “a national effort towards the problems of Negro Americans must be directed towards the question of family structure . . . the object should be to strengthen the Negro family so as to enable it to raise and support its members as do other families.”

    Today, approximately 80% of black families are led by a single parent — almost always a mother without a husband. Enabled by welfare and other “Great Society” handouts, the resulting low academic scores, high incarceration rates and rampant unemployment confirm the massive negative impact progressive policies have had on black America. They’re policies that reparations — yet another form of hand-out — will not fix until fathers once again lead black homes.

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    Today, while their leaders are busy acquiring multi-million property portfolios, black youth in urban areas are failing and falling behind. In 2019, for instance, only 14% of black students in Chicago Public Schools were proficient in reading. In Baltimore Public Schools, 37% of black seniors read at grade level. High-performing private and charter schools are a well-known solution to these challenges, but school-choice continues to be restricted by, you guessed it, progressive groups and teachers unions.

    And so school systems, propelled by left-leaning policies, turn out semi-literate, under-employable, angry young people trapped at the lowest levels of society and unsure whom to blame for putting them there. No wonder reparations sound so tempting.

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/07/black-families-need-fathers-not-reparations-for-slavery/
     
  5. OldGuy?wise

    OldGuy?wise Active Member Past Donor

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    Reparations (just giving people money) is probably not the best solution to the racial discrimination for the past 160 years. I think that most people will either just spend the money or be cheated out of it. Having a black man in charge of each family would not make much difference. The money would still be used up or gone. I am not sure how to assist or repay older citizens, but every young person should have very real opportunity - the best public schools, affordable or free college or technical training. Everyone should have basic security - at least good affordable health care and social security. These programs are not "social welfare". They are investments in the quality of life in America and investments in its future. We need healthy, educated, productive citizens.
     
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    Even if so... Moriah made it clear that it isn't about if you are descended from slaves, but about skin colour alone.
     
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    I was reading about a former slave, William Ellison Jr. Born into slavery and freed when he was 26 in 1816. By the 1860s he had 69 slaves, the largest slave owner in South Carolina at the time. Some of his descendants today are wealthy. Seems silly that his wealthy descendants get reparations while some impoverished guy whose ancestors never owned any slaves gets nothing because his skin is white. Sounds like racial discrimination that the government is prohibited from engaging in. Or at least should be.
     
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    Dammit, you made me search 9 pages of posts for the quote, when you knew it wasnt there.
     
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    More Free money! I wonder where all of these free hand outs are coming from? Just print more money Joe biden and the democrat politicians!

    Keep devaluing the American dollar,. and then tax the American people more.

    I mean, what American taxpayer doesn't want to pay 30 percent taxes? for a socialist utopia like California? then again, why don't liberals just move to places like california more, instead of constantly moving out of them? lol
     
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    California was admitted as a free state, it has never had slavery while in the United States. If they want to go further back than that they should look to the Mexican and Spanish governments that were in charge previous to 1850 for their free ****.

    You would have to be incredibly naive to think this is anything other than a cynical play for political power by Newsom. Theft via taxation from one group to buy the votes from another.
     

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