"They’re trying to George Floyd me" before dead

This is a mixture of whataboutism and degrading a black person of being an animal/beast and subsequently erase it's human rights / viewing him as 2nd class, while distracting away that you could not prove the victim was violently resisting and subsequently should never been confronted with this psychotic level of violence by the cops which is a violation of his 4th amendment rights. Typical far right wing tactic.

 

Okay, here's a study that attempts to explore what I'm talking about. It wasn't focused on just race, but it does suggest that perhaps the deaths are racially-influenced. I have only skimmed it so this isn't an endorsement so much as an example:

Deaths Due to Use of Lethal Force by Law Enforcement - PMC (nih.gov)

"Recent public discourse has focused on racial disparities in legal intervention deaths. The current study found that, consistent with prior research,3,12,16,17,55 black victims were substantially over-represented relative to the U.S. population, comprising 34% of victims but only 13% of Americans,36,56 and with legal intervention death rates 2.8 times higher than those among whites. Black victims were also more likely to be unarmed than whites or Hispanics, and less likely than whites to have evidence suggesting an immediate threat to LE. Incidents involving black and Hispanic victims were more likely to involve at least one black LE officer, potentially because of greater racial diversity in police departments located in areas with larger minority populations."

 

Not really.

If the narrative is that cops are looking for reasons to shoot black people they're not really capitalizing on their opportunities.

Doctors kill more people than cops.

 

Um, that's not the narrative.

More like this, from the source I just quoted in my prior post:

"Racial inequities in legal intervention fatalities may reflect differences in the way that some LE officers or agencies perceive and interact with black community members and suspects.12,61 Studies have shown that most people hold culturally derived “implicit biases”—automatic, unconscious stereotypes that favor some groups and disfavor others.62 Research on implicit race bias in the U.S. consistently demonstrates a tendency to associate more-favorable concepts with whites and less-favorable concepts with blacks across racial/ethnic groups, although these biases are less common among blacks.62 These biases can impact behavior, even among trained professionals such as physicians.63 Among LE, such biases may be further shaped by the nature of experiences on the job.64,65 "

 

He was resisting in the video you didn’t bother to look at. But you don’t need evidence when your only goal is to make black criminals into heroes. Weird fetish.

 

Well, the fact is that black people people are pulled over far more often when driving, and subsequently get more arrests on them. Percentage wise white people got a higher chance of being arrested when pulled over. And when it's getting dark, the % of black people pulled over drops... proving cops are racist profiling black people and letting white people get away with it. The narcotics brigade does the same thing. They arrest black people 5 times more often, while white people do an equal amount of crime. And so again the cops, who are predominantly white, just look the other way when white people commit crime. FYI, drug related arrests is the most common arrest made in the US. And you eyeball that data who those bigot cops arrest, without considering who is the biggest drug users, and who should be arrested more often when driving. Research is out, and has been out on this for decades.

Is it? In this case, the victim wasn't aggressive one bit and got tasered for 30 seconds straight at one point, and he got zapped multiple times.
It's flat out police brutality. A violation of the 4th amendment. Get over it.

 

https://www.latimes.com/california/...nan-anderson-brings-scrutiny-to-police-policy

LAPD policy states that officers “may use the Taser as a reasonable force option to control a suspect when the suspect poses an immediate threat to the safety of the officer or others.” According to LAPD policy, the duration of a Taser activation on a suspect is five seconds.

There was zero threat and they tasered him for 42.
It's not anywhere remotely close to what they are trained to do.
So an obviously unreasonable seizure it is.

And you're just lying and raping the constitution for the sake to justify seriously hurting a black man which probably killed him.

 

No I'm just not not accepting your bizarre interpretation of the Constitution.

Framing this as racism is you not understanding reality. White people have fewer interactions with the police but higher likely hood of being injured or killed than black people.

You're selecting black people as the chosen people who are beyond reproach that's actually racial supremacy and that's why you're accusing me of that because you're guilty.

 

Really? You previously lied that "it [seizing] wasn't an unreasonable way.". I proved it's absolutely not the way you claimed. And instead of admitting to that, you're flat out not responding to this and cower away about the "bizarre interpretation of the Constitution". So I can only take that you are conceding in a bizarre way.


As for the " The interpretation of the constitution": you sure are showing me, not. Easy enough for me to prove you're lying again:
Chauvin admitted for the first time that he willfully violated Floyd's constitutional right to be free from unreasonable seizure, which includes the right to be free from the use of unreasonable force by a police officer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Chauvin


Do you often bend the truth in a bizarre way, or does this only happen when you try to justify the unconstitutional way cops behave towards black people? Currently you do not make it hard for others what to make a guess. I can tell you that.

 

not all cops are bad, not all doctors are bad, but I want justice for the victims of the bad ones of each

 

Do the same comparing men and women. If still there is a disparity that disfavors men, would you conclude the police are sexist?

 

I would follow the data, but I doubt it's there because women are a very small proportion of them. When it comes to being armed, gender doesn't matter much for threat level. If they're unarmed, one could imagine that men in general are perceived as a greater threat because they truly are (on average), but if they're unarmed, the necessity of lethal force seems dubious (usually).

 

The reason more Black people are pulled over is that the Cops are patroling where the highest crime is, which happens to be Black neighborhoods, they're not going to patrol a predominantly White neighborhoods where there is relatively low crime in comparison.

Black neighborhood

White neighborhood


Where do you think cops are more likely to find criminals

 

Cop that put his knee on the back of George Floyds neck for 9 minutes when he died, is rotting in prison. Cop that put his knee on the back of Tony Timpas neck for 14 minutes when he died, didnt even lose his job. "Justice" shouldnt vary based upon the color of the victims skin.

 

agree, all victims deserve justice from bad cops

all too often, cops get away with it

 

???? YES, because there is such a LARGE disparity that disfavors men, which was my point you missed. Men are only 50% of the population but make up 99% or whatever of the deaths at the hands of the police. "Equity" requires equal outcomes. Be consistent and condemn the sexism of the police while you condemn their racism.

 

I actually haven't concluded there is racism, though the study I found leaned towards the idea that there is at least some. I didn't fully analyze it so far let alone conclude it's enough by itself to make that determation.

I don't demand equal outcomes for when police use lethal force. Lethal force ought to be applied when it is needed to protect officers or the public. If black people are disproportionately affected, but lethal force is being appropriately applied, there may be a problem, but it's NOT with the police conduct. I was interested in whether there is inappropriate bias, as BLM people allege. You don't seem to get how to analyze this. It isn't about rate of death at the hands of police because that will depend on criminal activity. The issue is what causes police to use force. Is race (or gender) a factor in that, or is it just the behavior and actual level of threat posed by the suspect (which are appropriate ways to decide when to use force).

 

Foundational to CRT. Cash bond requirements disproportionally impacts blacks, so they are reducing or eliminating the requirement. Cities prosecuting public transport fare jumpers disproportionally impacts blacks so cities stop prosecuting fare jumpers. Prosecuting shoplifting disproportionally impacts blacks so they stop prosecuting shop lifters. All CRT applying the CRT equation. ANY racial disparity that disfavors blacks is the result of systemic racism. And since blacks are 13% of the population but 26% of those killed by the police, cops are branded as racist. But for their racism, blacks would be 13% of those killed by the police.

In Minnesota where George Floyd was killed, blacks are only 10% of the population and yet account for 75% of the known murderers. The 13% to 26% racial disparity isnt racism of the cops.

 

CRT does. Another foundational principle.

 

??? Its a fact. Revealing that you would label the mere acceptance of fact to be far right wing. Thats because the left wing chooses to reject such realities that dont fit the narrative. So typical

 

Black cops are just as likely to be involved in overuse of force.

 

It's completely the narrative from the left.

 

Haven't watched msnbc lately, but my impression is it's fringe

 

I don't think so. Show me that. I think some people concerned about racism jump to conclusions based upon unequal outcomes, but a social scientist knows it's a complicated research question.

 

it wasn't unreasonable.

You never prove your claims. You can't.


Everything else you posted is pathetic posturing and it bores me.