Are people who choose not to have children selfish?

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Are people who choose not to have children selfish?

  1. Yes

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    10.5%
  2. No

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    89.5%
  1. mswan

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    You don’t that do you?
     
  3. edna kawabata

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    Core snot.
     
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    I voted no, although I've heard people who say yes it is selfish not to have children. More to the point, people want others to have some but not too many children.

    The Bible says somewhere that you should be satisfied with your current lot in life and not wish to have children if that isn't your situation and vice-versa.

    Based on news stories I've read recently, we may soon have a cure for aging. In that case, we may be more focused on pacing ourselves for several career paths, for variety, over our much longer lifetimes rather than having children to fill those positions when we retire.
     
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    I said yes but that is a very "general" answer. Some have desires in their lives to serve others that having children may complicate. I look at the ones in my life that proudly chose not to have children (for various reasons) and have lived solely for themselves, They are lonely, uninteresting people generally. Granted, you can't generalize but today we are the result "generally" of a narcissistic generation.
     
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    I pity you.
     
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    But you did,... hilariously!....the old "you won't have any happiness unless you are BREEDING " ploy...too silly for words!!!...

    More hilarity....ALL generations were narcisstic...but no more than any other...
     
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    Having a child without the maturity or economic means to support them is selfish. Having a child because 'its what we're meant to do' and not having the desire to nurture them is selfish. Having a child even though you don't have the capacity to love and teach and spend time with them is selfish.
     
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    Very few people can be certain of their economic means for the next 18 years. This would mean that almost no one should be having children.

    People have been having babies for thousands of years, it's turned out just fine.

    The parents of the baby boomers lived through the great depression. There isn't any way they were certain that their economic means was going to be sufficient for 20 years, they all knew how fast things could turn.
     
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    These new generations are gonna be lonely and miserable in bachelor apartments struggling financially while collecting cats.
     
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    I'm not talking about financial stability forecasted for 18 years - of course no one can know that. But my sentence - having a child without the maturity or economic means to support them is selfish - is referring to those people who cannot afford the hospital costs or diapers at the time of the child being born. But that could also extend to couples who are living pay check to pay check on two incomes, barely affording their own existence. I'm talking about the more extreme end of the spectrum.
     
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    You cant blame health care costs because this **** is happening in Canada as well. The younger generation are lonely, depressed attention seeking and confused. They will die alone and broke because they do not value family and have no idea how commitment works.
     
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    I would not have been born if my parents were subjected to that standard, most of us would not have been.

    Being born is an accident for 90% of briths, it has always been that way. Nothing is going to change that.
     
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    Birth control did.....55% of pregnancies are planned.
     
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    Lot of that is true....but if a people want to wait until they are perfect individuals, they will never have children. A lot of this has to do with "faith" in what can be. There are maternal instincts and paternal instincts that are embedded in most that help us along. My first son was unexpected. I wasn't even married. We married as soon as we found out about the pregnancy. A lot of maturing kicked in real fast and we raised three well adjusted children. When I didn't have answers, I prayed and sought Divine help. I often took council from older people. And I found joy in "hard work". In fact, raising a family is a joyful experience and it remains so even in old age. My children raise families in return and are quite happy. Maybe the culture should set more examples.
    Instead....the present culture toys with "gender confusion" and other alternatives to healthy family. That my friend is by design!
     
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    Maybe in the US.
     
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    Nailed it. It's called the "abomination that leads to desolation". It's in the Bible, predicted by Jesus Christ, the Christian god, Himself.

    Or you think Christianity is just a story never to be taken seriously and never to come to pass?

    Many feel that "the end is nigh", so they don't have children to be miserable in the Tribulation.

    God always wins. (c)
     
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    Plenty of people with kids may end up like that :)
     
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    I understand, what you're talking about....it's called "thinking" before acting.....so many children have suffered because Mommie and Daddy couldn't think things through ...or had some SICK WEIRD idea that procreation was mandatory..
     
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    I mean, I guess? If you raise your children poorly and they hate you? Sure? But 100 percent of people who elect not to make a family or make a commitment to a life partner end up like that.

    :)
     
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    All ya gotta do is show proof...and you can't because it isn't true...:)
     
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    I'm glad I had one and now have 2 grandkids... I really didn't want more, well maybe I did but a divorce got in t he way.

    I have issues with those have so many...Just dame across a new conservative commentaror and I like what he talks about but he's only 36 and already has 6 children. I know NOT MY BUSINESS. Financially sounds like he has no issues.
     
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    exactly
     
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    I have four friends 2 M and 2 F and they have no children and I feel a saddness for their kinda empty old age ..
     
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    Yup, I never had biological children but I married a woman with 3, at one point she said she wanted to give me a baby I said what is wrong with these 3 lol, she passed away a decade ago but these 3 still call me dad! I love them a lot
     
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