We have far more deaths from Fentanyl than gun violence. How are you doing drug wise and suicide wise?
So you think you are immune from any of that because you live in America? What makes you better than anyone else in the world? Even our Founders warned us if we weren't diligent we wouldn't keep our liberty. I just think you are naive. Go back to Oprah!
I don't live in America. Are you ever right about anything? So far I haven't found anything you have been right about.
I am sorry that you live in such a bad neighborhood. You seem to think that every city in the world is corrupt. Well that simply isn't so. You have my sympathy. I was born and raised in New York City so I know what you are talking about. That's why I moved somewhere much better. I hope I never get as jaded and negative as you seem to be.
Not only livelihoods. They can lose their lives. How dare any man tell a woman what she must do!! And particularly about her own life. ISTM you would be happier in Taliban Afghanistan.
The classic was the poor ten year old who was raped - pregnancy on a child that young is extremely dangerous as the mother and the foetus have to compete for nutrients to fuel body growth
So, nothing. I'm just stating a fact to someone who seems to think that it's not a fact. Seems that you know that it's a fact. Great.
You said that "human being" does not necessarily mean BORN. Simple! What the hell are you talking about? I believe that the one from rape has less value.
FoxHastings: ""YOU have NEVER answered the question : How is the fetus due to rape different from a fetus due to consensual sex?"" Why would it? Aren't all fetuses "innocent life" ? Or is that just some crap Anti-Choicers throw out there for no reason? And who would it have less value to?
So you blame the fetus for the crime? Weird! Sorry, but a fetus is a fetus , it isn't "tainted" by the rape....what a funny old-fashioned idea... OK, you say all fetuses are "innocent life" yet value the fetus due to rape as less than....you think it should have less rights because it's "tainted" LOL!! Hilarious! I asked : And who would it have less value to?" and you reply with "Fetuses conceived via the consensual act" So the fetus due to rape is of less value to a fetus of consensual sex? LOL....How do fetuses know if the other fetus is the product of rape or not lLOLOLOLL
Thank you for agreeing that abortion is a human action which interrupts the natural process of gestation.
Quote where I blamed the fetus for the crime. You won't be able to! Your opinion. Well you don't think that ANY of them should have the right to life. I think that 99.99% of them should have the right to life. Why would they need to know? Also, no response to post #4014! How telling!
What a hypocritical position about relative "value" of an unborn baby depending on whether it is born of rape or consensual sex. And yet Yabber wants to protect unborn children because he regards it as life worth protecting. So he is interpreting God's will as protecting a subset of people already reduced in value , a subset of "proper" children and destined to carry the "value" of the rape of its mother for its whole life. And yet Jesus spoke of all children being born without sin. Additionally Yabber is forcing the results of a violent assault onto the VICTIM, and the child who is the innocent result of that violent assault. Is he completely mad?? How dare he pass judgement on the victim of a horrific assault? He is as much a self identified judge and jury as were the Puritans or the Taliban. Or the conduct of the Spanish Inquisition. I was taught that the god of Jesus was a forgiving loving god. I think he would have trouble doing that in your case. DO NOT justify your bigotry by claiming it to be the real god.
The “natural process of gestation” is anything but in essence it is a pottery with around 50% offertilies eggs failing to implant and a further (approx) 20% miscarrying (natural abortions) in the course of the pregnancy
FoxHastings said: ↑ No, I did not make it ""clear that I am OK with killing certain human beings"... Why TF would post 4014 need a reply and what TF is so "telling" ? YOU said : You said that "human being" does not necessarily mean BORN. Simple!" Another thing I never said,simple. FoxHastings said: ↑ No, I did not make it ""clear that I am OK with killing certain human beings"..
Then HOW is it "tainted" ? And it's your opinion that a fetus is "tainted" by being the product of rape....an opinion from the Dark Ages ... You finally are correct But can't give an intelligent reason why 1 % don't. At the end of post 4015 I asked , And who would it have less value to? and YOU replied , ""Fetuses conceived via the consensual act."" Indicating that you thought that fetuses conceived through consensual sex would value the fetuses conceived in rape... It's just English BTW , "YOU have NEVER answered the question : How is the fetus due to rape different from a fetus due to consensual sex?""
