Tennessee GOP Expels 2 BLACK Democratic Lawmakers

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  1. DEFinning

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    Here is the opinion of the Black Caucus of the Tennessee House of Representatives (so Republicans may not have even one black member?).

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna78685


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    Black Tennessee state lawmakers on Friday rebuked Republican members of the state's House of Representatives for voting to expel two Black legislators over their protests last week following a mass school shooting in Nashville.

    Members of the Tennessee Black Caucus of State Legislators said the GOP effort to remove two of their own from their seats — Justin Jones and Justin Pearson — was rooted in racism.

    "The world saw the optics," the caucus chairman, Rep. Sam McKenzie, a Democrat from Knoxville, told reporters Friday at a news conference in Nashville. "I don't have to say a word about the fact that our two young African American brothers were unfairly prosecuted."

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    "This wasn't about one event," he said, pointing to the GOP's effort to defund the state's only historically Black college, Tennessee State University, and one lawmaker's proposal to bring back lynching.

    "Welcome to Tennessee, where there’s a pattern of racism that has permeated these halls," added Rep. Vincent Dixie, a Democrat from Nashville.

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    The dates of the two special elections will be set by Republican Governor Bill Lee.
     
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  2. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What "happened before" is the detail you're not paying attention to.
     
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    That is all being presented these days. That means the facts would show it wasn't racism. This is why you are avoiding facts.
     
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    It doesn’t matter. Nothing that happened before is on the level of J6.
     
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    You're absolutley right.

    When the words racist and bigot are thrown around at every agenda item for the left, they stop to carry meaning.

    It's crying wolf.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    So just to clarify here, you're supporting this insurrection then? Why?
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. So, your only criteria for membership in the legislature is race then? Why? More, given that these folks participated in what democrats have defined as being an insurrection, why are you continuing to support them?
     
  8. DEFinning

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    Not even close, to what I'd said. And there was nothing close to an "insurrection" that occurred in Tennessee-- how many have been arrested & charged with anything akin to sedition? Was anyone arrested at all? Unless, maybe, you were asking if I supported the MAGA attack on the Capitol? You will need to be a bit clearer in your question, if you would like clarification from me, regarding what you wish to ask about.
     
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    LOL... so, because these were democrats, this wasn't insurrection, even though demonstrably these threats to democracy did exactly what folks in DC did,... I see your unwillingness to be equitable here... It is certainly useful to know that when your team attacks democracy that you don't see that as a problem. It's all cool with you. So, for you, being a black democrat shields you from the law? Is that your interpretation of the law now? It sure clears things up about your ideological purity.
     
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    When you're concerned with the color of someone's skin, there's always the real chance for racism.:roll: It's called a self-fulfilling prophecy.
     

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    Yea, well, I accept your surrender.
     
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    It was a protest, not an insurrection.
    There was no attempt to overthrow an election.
     
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    You can believe what you want. But you would be wrong.
     
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    Again, it seems as though you're not paying attention to detail. I don't think Nwolfe35 is referring to 1/6.
     
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    Understood. Corrected
     
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    Yes, and this has played out in Florida too, where the GOP has dismissed many democratically elected officials and replaced them with political appointees, but even FL has not done it to Congress Reps.
     
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    My only "criteria for membership in the legislature is race?" Do people typically have any idea, in your opinion, what you are talking about? Because that question is unintelligible. I have no "criteria," for members of the Tennessee legislature, other than that they were elected to the Tennessee legislature.

    Since there is already a backlog building, of your inexplicable comments, I am going to try to guess that you are questioning why the number of blacks in the TN House of Reps has any relevance, to charges of racism(?). Really-- you can't figure that out? The fewer the number of blacks, the more suspicious is the targeting of those blacks. It doesn't mean that, if there had only been two blacks, and these were the ones expelled, for something no one has ever been expelled for, in the history of that legislative body, it would prove racism, but those facts would present a very strong case.

    Again, I have not made a charge, because I do not feel there is sufficient proof of one, but that is not the same as saying there is no reason for suspicion. Since this is my thread, and this racial aspect is undeniably a part of the controversy, and the story, here-- is in fact the part, with which my linked article began-- and since numerous posters are opining on this element of the story, some of whom have asked me, for example, for the total number of black Republicans who had voted to expel the black Democrats, it seems an wholely unreasonable expectation of yours, if you are trying to say you think that race should be completely left out of any consideration of the topic.

    The second half of your post, seemingly asks why I am continuing to support the expelled members. I do not know what is your own criteria, in defining "support." All I have said, is that it is a sign of a Party both drunk with its own power, and simultaneously living in fear of the electorate learning how it is spending its time, and so turning against them, for it to so easily deprive citizens of representation. Expelling members for floor rule violations is unprecedented. Do you understand what that means?

    I know you are accusing these members of leading an insurrection which, to be clear, would be ample reason for expulsion. But this is also, clearly, nothing but a fantastic illusion of yours. If it were true, those two members would have been arrested. In point of fact, even their expulsion vote, mentioned nothing about insurrections.
    They were expelled, for being disruptive. This is an abuse of the Republicans' power. That is my main point. Please try to come a little closer to addressing it, when replying to me, than you have, in the nonsense allegations of your last couple of posts.
     
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    Lame answer. Granted, there is a general truth to the notion-- that doesn't mean it applies in all cases (I would have thought, I could've added, "obviously"). So you are saying that racism does not exist, if we pretend it doesn't exist?
     
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    If you can supply us any links on Florida's shenanigans, they would be much appreciated.
     
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    Hmm... So it was, really? The same folks who called other protests an insurrection.. okie dokie.... Nah, y'all made the rules, these aren't protests anymore. They are insurrections. Guess you just never considered anyone would actually take y'all seriously when you folks went full hysteria..... Deal.
     
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    Who said they were ALL trying to take over the govt? A few in the crowd of 10s of 1000s? A couple who actually entered the building? Didn’t look like it. If you watch the video, the vast majority were on a site seeing tour taking selfies. Many were literally staying within the barriers like they were at Disney, because they were INVITED IN by the cops.

    If everyone at 1/6 was trying to take over the govt then EVERYONE that donated to BLM wanted to burn cities down. Certainly not mostly peaceful when it’s billions in damage, many lives lost and countless injuries. Just using your logic.
     
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    You should really take up a pastime that doesn't require reading-- you're not good at it. No part of my post, mentions anything affected by Party affiliation. Here it was, once more:

    DEFinning said: ↑
    Not even close, to what I'd said. And there was nothing close to an "insurrection" that occurred in Tennessee-- how many have been arrested & charged with anything akin to sedition? Was anyone arrested at all? Unless, maybe, you were asking if I supported the MAGA attack on the Capitol? You will need to be a bit clearer in your question, if you would like clarification from me, regarding what you wish to ask about.

    Once again, you are speaking about a "reality" that doesn't exist. The protest for the Tennessee legislature to take up the issue of gun safety, is not "demonstrably...exactly what folks in D.C. did." LOL. Head shake. Spit, in disgust. Your contention is pathetic, and hardly merits response. Note that I was using the very objective measure of arrests and legal charges. There is no comparison, by that marker. This forum does not have to accept your mind's fabrications, as truth.

    Again, there appears not the slightest connection between your "conclusions," and my post, upon which they are supposedly based.

    Your utterances are nonsense, and no more.
     
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    I was being sarcastic
     
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    NONE of them were invited in. Once in the police made the decision to keep it peaceful, but they were continually told they were there illegally and needed to leave.
     
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    Racism exists if people think racism exists. See, that's an example of the self-fulfilling prophesy I mentioned earlier.:roll:
     
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