‘Buckle up': DeSantis escalates Disney dispute, eyes hotel taxes and road tolls

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  1. Condor060

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    So every Democrat who voted for this bill (which would be all of them) are now fascist authoritarians who piss on the Constitution for partisan political pandering?
    Who knew
     
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    Nope, a stock's price tells you what people are currently willing to pay. That number is influenced by a number of things...sometimes things that aren't even true.
    The actual value of a company is the value of it's assets minus it's liabilities.
    Most stock experts right now agree that Disney stock is undervalued, meaning that the actual value of the company (assets - liabilities) is greater than it's Market Cap.

    Also the "woke political gaming" is not the reason for the stock price drop, anyone telling you that is just lying.
     
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    Yet the IRS said groups with words %22tea party%22 or %22patriot%22 in applications were singled out

    Lois Lerner, who heads the IRS unit that oversees tax-exempt groups, admitted organizations that included the words "tea party" or "patriot" in their applications for tax-exempt status were singled out for additional reviews.

    IRS apologizes for targeting conservative groups
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...gy-conservative-groups-2012-election/2149939/

    IRS Admits To Targeting Conservative Groups Over Tax Status
    https://swampland.time.com/2013/05/10/irs-admits-targeting-conservative-groups-over-tax-status/

    Where is your freedom of speech cries for this?
    If they were targeting both parties, wheres the IRS apology for that?
     
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    SIAP. It's defensible when DeSantis thinks Disney is harmful to children of Florida, for example. To reiterate, DeSantis is protecting Florida children, for example. from harm...That's defensible.

    IMO, Disney's logo should be of a child predator not Mickey Mouse.
     
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    LMAO :)
     
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    What bill are you talking about? The original "Don't Say Gay" bill or the one revamping the Reedy Creek Improvement District?

    I don't think the bill that passed, revamping the Reedy Creek Improvement District, is unconstitutional. It was stupid, but not unconstitutional. Anyone who voted for it was voting out of emotion, not an analysis of the situation.

    What RCID did on the way out the door (turning over most of the control of the District to Disney) was legal and there is no way DeSantis is going to get a court to overturn it. I also think it's just funny as hell.
     
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    Well, you would be the first person in history to declare a public companies stock has nothing to do with the companies value.
    Never heard that from anyone in history.

    And Disneys woke gaming for their woke agenda to threaten to have a law repealed that has nothing to do with Disney got the attention of DeSantis.
    Which in turn, DeSantis threatened to pull their Reddy Creek exemption.
    Which in turn created a stock sell off by Disney share holders
    To include Disneys current CEO who sold off all of his Disney stock to the tune of 90 million dollars worth
    Which in turn drove Disney stock to the gutter.
     
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    And yet NO ONE has answered the question on how ANY of this stops Disney from "pushing their woke agenda"

    Fine, DeSantis thinks Disney is "harmful" to children (stupid, but in keeping with DeSantis line of reasoning). How has anything he has done change what Disney can do, in that regard, in the slightest?
     
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    Well that took about 2 seconds

    https://blog.hubspot.com/the-hustle...is market cap vs,market cap and other methods.
     
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    Disney will probably move to a more receptive state like California or NY. DeSantis just isn't gonna extend any more favors to Disney. The customers of Disney must wake up and force Disney to change.
     
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    Its more than clear that your hate for DeSantis is obviously more important than anything else.
    So while you support Disneys woke agenda to indoctrinate 5 year olds with their trans and gay sexuality issues, because you hate DeSantis, It seems you have a very small minority who stands with you.

    And you seem unable to realize that not only did their stock holders bail out over this, but so has Disney. Did you even notice they aren't pushing to have this law repealed anymore? No, you didn't. And they reversed course because they can't survive on the support of gays, trans, and pedophiles. Nobody with children supports this.

    So a company, who profits mostly from their targeting of children for their movies and theme parks, decides to threaten Florida legislation, to remove their law protecting 5 year olds from being indoctrinated with gay and trans sexuality issues, (which has NOTHING to do with Disney) and starts a political war with Florida voters and its legislation, and you stand on the sidelines pretending none of this happened, so you can **** on Florida voters?

    Let us all know how this works out for ya
     
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    You are speaking very clearly for yourself supporting this big business over the People of Florida. Please cite the section of the Florida state constitution he is pissing on when he calls for the same treatment towards Disney as other companies.
     
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    Why would they move?
    The only thing DeSantis has accomplished is to take away Disney's responsibility for maintaining the infrastructure in the newly renamed Central Florida Tourism Oversight Committee (formerly Reedy Creek Improvement District) while Disney still maintains control over permit approval and other planning powers. In short if Disney wants to build a new resort/hotel in the District Disney can approve it and the CFTOC has to fund the infrastructure for it. How the committee does that is up to them. Please note that RCID has been doing this for over 50 years and not once has had to stick tolls on any of the roads or force other landowners in the district to pay more taxes. If RCID could do that then any threat by Governor Dum Dum is just a hissy fit thrown by him because he got seriously outmaneuvered.
     
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    I already chased on such "see this" dud how about a straight answer

    Do you believe big business is superior to the people of Florida? Why do you support this special treatment for this big business shouldn't they be treated like any other business? If not why not?
     
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    Thanks for your confirmation
    From your own link
    Market cap estimates the value of a public company by multiplying its current share price by the total number of outstanding shares. The term “valuation” refers to any attempt to estimate the value of a company, which includes the market cap and other methods.

    Market capitalization (or market cap) is the total value of a publicly traded company’s outstanding stock. It’s one way to estimate the value of a company, and it’s a useful tool for comparing public companies across industries.
     
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    No one knows as little about authoritarianism and fascism, for examples, as the authoritarians (the fascists and the communists) of the dem party.:roll:
     
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    Which is exactly how you determine value.
    You're catching on
     
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    They support groups who beat up innocent civilians because those civilians don't vote the way they want them to.
    Then claim those civilians are being beat up because they are fascist.
    While they use fascist methods to prove you are fascist.
    You can't make this stuff up
     
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    I'm not a citizen of Florida so he is not "my boy". If the depth of your discussion is about "feelings" you ain't got nothin'.
     
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    And there will still be a special district, but not a sovereign state as Disney wants.
     
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    Odd as two people have said the IRS targeting of both liberal and conservative organizations was wrong and there was zero evidence it was done by Obama. Not one of your ilk has spoken out against what’s going on with Disney that was unilaterally done by ron

    Looks to be that way, I may have missed a comment of yours denouncing this.

    I agree
     
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    Three democrats have already said there should have been no targeting and voiced opposition to it in this thread alone — ignoring the fact that they targeted liberal and conservative groups.

    Zero of you have denounced ron and most of you are openly cheering it. Notice the difference?
     
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    The discussion is based on action by the state of Fl and the lack of care by “free speech” conservatives here.

    That all of you are running from even simple questions show this will be deeply unpopular on the national stage
     
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    They never targeted liberal groups and you have ZERO evidence that they did.
    But you have a reputation of making claims out of thin air, so theres that.
    Or you can show us all the IRS apologizing to liberal groups.
    Which is it?

    So you got got with your hypocrisy of this free speech claim and now its everyone else fault?
    Nice try lol
     
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