Gunman killed neighbors, child with AR-15-style rifle, sheriff says

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  1. Bush Lawyer

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    'ang on. Is 2% of 300 mill not 60,000?????????
     
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    You found what? One DUI over 10 years ago. Hardly an outstanding criminal. In fact what percentage of mass shooters do have a criminal history?
    https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles...masses-details-half-century-us-mass-shootings
     
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    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    I suppose you'll have us believe Aussie has no growing gang violence that take the lives of your teen children and beyond.
     
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    you seem unable to understand that we don't have 60,000 murders a year in the USA with firearms-I was noting the actual number is more like 12K
     
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    Go ahead and make excuses for the gun shooting drunken one who acted as his neighborhood's executioner last night. The Mexican National should have been deported once he was found to have guns illegally in his possession, a fact that eludes you.
     
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    What about registration?
    I think a national registration system would go far in making individuals more accountable for their weapons.
     
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    I would like just one, just of the “but they’re gunna take muh guns!” brigade to actually link to a policy/recommendation/proposal that states confiscation of guns is proposed. Even Giffords and Everytown, Moms demand action or Generation Lockdown are not suggesting that
     
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    I am not “making excuses” I am pointing out the underpinning fallacy of your post
     
  9. Bush Lawyer

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    Only 12K a year. That's okay then, eh?

    Point is...on the stats (and you love posting stats, yes?) you have 60,000 brooding killers there right now, anyone of whom could be at a school near you on Monday, maybe with one of their with mass killing machines popping away.
     
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    But but but that would take an effort and mean they would have to spend time away from gently stroking and fondling their guns/ sarcasm
     
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    What is this? I don't own guns. Guns aren't the problem. The violent gang culture is eating this country alive and that's all you can come up with?
     
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    I never mentioned anything about Aussie's and their mass shootings, okay? Keep up.
    Read what I wrote and address that.
     
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  14. Bush Lawyer

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    Okay, so what are you doing about it. I propose ~ take the guns away! Over to you Blue Leader.
     
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  16. Bush Lawyer

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    Okay, so explain the 'glass houses' you say we 'live in.'
     
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    Nah, I think I'm done here.
    Over to you.
     
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    no it wouldn't and its unconstitutional. Gun banners lust for national registration since it makes confiscation so much easier. Registration lists can be hacked proving criminals and corrupt cops a shopping list of homes to burglarize or raid. Criminals cannot be forced to register guns.
     
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    your posts about the USA are searching to make sense but have completely failed in all known ways
     
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    Actually here are some alarming stats that will continue to be ignored by the usual gun grabbing brigade.
    Ah, but let's blame the law abiding gun owners for black on black juvenile gun death.

    "Black children and teens were roughly five times as likely as their White counterparts to die from gunfire in 2021. There were 11.8 gun deaths per 100,000 Black children and teens that year, compared with 2.3 gun deaths per 100,000 White children and teens. The gun death rate among Hispanic children and teens was also 2.3 deaths per 100,000 in 2021, while it was lower among Asian children and teens"

    Gun deaths among U.S. kids rose 50% from 2019 to 2021 | Pew Research Center
     
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    What leads you to believe they serve no purpose other than to kill/harm people?
     
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    What's the problem with this?

    Where is the 'searching to make sense' etc bit?

    Come on Counsellor, deal with the point (as made) which follows from the stats you love to quote.
     
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    "There are also major racial and ethnic differences in the types of gun deaths involving children and teens. In 2021, a large majority of gun deaths involving Black children and teens (84%) were homicides, while 9% were suicides. Among White children and teens, by contrast, the majority of gun deaths (66%) were suicides, while a much smaller share (24%) were homicides."

    Aww, but let the gun grabbers pretend the above isn't happening and that the real gun problem is primarily among one group, and that's the legal, law abiding gun owners.
    Gun deaths among U.S. kids rose 50% from 2019 to 2021 | Pew Research Center
     
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    years ago, right after the GOP took the house with Newt's Contract, one of the freshman congress critters was a woman named Helen Chenoweth, from Wyoming IIRC. a hearing had been scheduled by the anti gun majority before the election and it was held shortly after the GOP took control. One of the witnesses for the Gun banners was some researcher-I believe from one of the anti gun universities such as Harvard. He went on and on when Representative Chenoweth asked him this? did your research include WHITE citizens? silence. Did your research involve white people shooting other whites? silence. then HC noted, well since your studies don't apply to almost every one of MY constituents, I can safely ignore what you are trying to advocate. Silence. now this was almost 30 years ago I I might have slightly misquoted her (sadly she was later killed in car wreck) but she absolutely nuked that anti gun geek
     
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    Back to the beginning. So...what are you now proposing? Get rid of black juveniles etc as though they were some readily disposable group, something un USA about them, and the problem of 60,000 lurking gun killers in the USA just goes away with a swish of a Harry Potter wand?
     

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