Carlson’s Text That Alarmed Fox Leaders: ‘It’s Not How White Men Fight’

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    The article is behind a paywall (which you can bypass by entering any email). But this is the relevant part. Tucker's racist rant:

    EXHIBIT 276
    Tucker Carlson January 7, 2021 — 04:18:04 PM UTC
    A couple of weeks ago, I was watching video of people fighting on the street in Washington. A group of Trump guys surrounded an Antifa kid and started pounding the living **** out of him. It was three against one, at least. Jumping a guy like that is dishonorable obviously. It’s not how white men fight. Yet suddenly I found myself rooting for the mob against the man, hoping they’d hit him harder, kill him. I really wanted them to hurt the kid. I could taste it. Then somewhere deep in my brain, an alarm went off: this isn’t good for me. I’m becoming something I don’t want to be. The Antifa creep is a human being. Much as I despise what he says and does, much as I’m sure I’d hate him personally if I knew him, I shouldn’t gloat over his suffering. I should be bothered by it. I should remember that somewhere somebody probably loves this kid, and would be crushed if he was killed. If I don’t care about those things, if I reduce people to their politics, how am I better than he is?
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/02/business/media/tucker-carlson-text-message-white-men.html

    Tucker rooting for a group of fascists to kill a guy he believed to be an anti-fascist is the most likely reason he was fired.. Not that Fox suddenly "discovered" that Tucker was a white supremacist. I mean, his rants on live TV against anybody who is not white and seeks equality are well known. But the text most definitely PROVES his racism.

    Note that it was written in 2021. Internally, Fox had this for over two years. So the decision to fire him was not his racism. It was the fact that his racism was made public.

    To Tucker fans: Now you know two things about the guy. You know he lied to you. And you know he's a white supremacist. Are you still behind him? I know he does supply you with talking points. But maybe the fact that now you know they are, not only false, but based on racism, might give some of you a motive to think twice.

    To Fox fans: This is the culture in Fox: lies and tolerance for intolerance.

    Now you know. The rest is up to you...
     
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  2. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Fox News has always been the KKK station. Everyone who works there is an obvious racist.
     
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    The statement that he sees everything through a political lens is obvious, that's what made him money at the expense of all others.

    That said, it is rare to fire someone over one issue, it was also reported earlier, that he a fight with one of the executives, which would be nothing new. The separation seems to have been bitter to this point, but who knows, maybe they will rehire him.
     
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    Why do you insist on peddling what you know are false narratives? You even cite from the source how the source themselves reconciled this. So why should you get a pass for ignoring the fact that the source themselves repudiated the message that you're writing now?
     
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    My, my, my. You zeroed in on one aspect of what Tucker said and completely ignored why he believed that was wrong thinking. This is cherry picking on full blown display by you.
     
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    FWIW, I don't think this text (really, that's a text? Longest text ever) proves his racism... Even the white men comment doesn't really bother me as much as the content I bolded...

    It proves he's a relatively disturbed human being who never deserves to have a platform to speak to Americans again, but he will...

    I note it was written the day after 1/6. I wonder what the connection is.... there has to be one...
     
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    I'm not in complete agreement with the OP here, but can you explain how using the phrase "white men" is saying nothing about race?

    That's sorta BS in my book...
     
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    This is not about violence. This is about WHY your favorite host condones violence. He states very clearly why.

    I don't know what you're talking about because, as forum rules state, if you have a case to make, YOU make it. Don't just throw in a video hoping it will make it for you. So your attempt to change the subject won't work.
     
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    Yes but this is way worse than seeing it through a political lens. This proves he sees everything through a white supremacist lens.
     
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    The source is Tucker. What false narrative are you talking about? Clearly Tucker is a liar. But it's doubtful he would lie to apear like a racist in a private communication.

    Weird post... with a hint of desperation.
     
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    I zeroed in on the part where he admits he's a racist. So what if he believed it was the wrong thinking? I didn't say he's a psycho who can't tell right from wrong. I simply proved he's a racist.
     
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    Um, no. Just stop it.
     
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    Yea, that's what I said you did. You cherry picked it out from where he stated such thinking was wrong.
     
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    LOL.. So you admit that you didn't actually read his post then? And you posted it anyway. So you purposefully posted a thread that spreads misinformation, and libels someone for something they didn't say or suggest.
     
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    Damn, OP. Another disaster of a thread. And what he said was accurate you don’t normally see more than one white guy surrounding someone else. Good luck closing your own thread before it gets worse.
     
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    Carlson thinks he is better than everyone else, at everything.
     
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    What do you call a gang of White thug cops murdering a Black person?
     
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    Unusual. I’ve never seen it. What’s the answer?
     
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    Left wing fantasy
     
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    And yet he actually doesn't. Read the post. He explains why. You simply ignore that part. Why is that?
    Tucker said, quote: "Then somewhere deep in my brain, an alarm went off: this isn’t good for me. I’m becoming something I don’t want to be. The Antifa creep is a human being. Much as I despise what he says and does, much as I’m sure I’d hate him personally if I knew him, I shouldn’t gloat over his suffering. I should be bothered by it. I should remember that somewhere somebody probably loves this kid, and would be crushed if he was killed. If I don’t care about those things, if I reduce people to their politics, how am I better than he is?"

    Prattle on about what you know is misinformation if you will, but Tucker himself explains why you're wrong. Deal.
     
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    If he DIDN'T think it was wrong, he'd be a psycho. People who don't know right from wrong have a disease. The medical term, I believe, is ASPD. Of course he knows it's wrong to be a racist. But the text proves he's one anyway.

    His defense has been that he's an entertainer. So he might have defended himself from white supremacist speech on camera by saying that the "white supremacist" persona was just role-play. This text proves that he really IS a white supremacist.

    Dude, cut it out! There is no defense possible!
     
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    Yea, he does come off as an arrogant ass.
     
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    Yeah, he knows he SHOULD experience normal human emotions... nowhere in there does he say he does..
     
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    I’m not even sure what video he watched; I searched “Trump supporters beat up antifa” and all I got was articles on antifa beating up Trump supporters. LOL


    In any case, I guess he’s not allowed to have a connection to anyone based on race, such that if a group of them do something terrible then he’s not supposed to have feelings about it along racial lines, let alone express them.

    racial does not mean racist.

    I’m Asian and if Asians were causing crime like Black people it would be tough for me to show my face in public. Why? Because I feel connected to them, and that emotion, while perhaps illogical, is human nature. I can feel illogically proud of what Asians accomplish and illogically ashamed about their atrocities.

    That is certainly racial of me. It is not racist.

    And Tucker even denounces his own racial feelings in the same email.

    weakest allegation of racism ever. A million hours of him on tape and this is the best you can come up with?

    Oh and by “you” I don’t actually mean the OP even though he is taking credit for this email like he personally dug it up rather than have spoon fed to him like everything else he knows or imagines he knows
     
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    Yeah not my style, others obviously different, whether it be money, looks, and/or success, et al.
     

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