Carlson’s Text That Alarmed Fox Leaders: ‘It’s Not How White Men Fight’

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  1. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You gave him an opportunity to flip the whataboutism, but they, for obvious reasons, weren't up to the challenge.
     
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    More “racist” comments from conservatives:

    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, I mean, that's a storybook, man."

    “poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.”

    “Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point. We have got to make some move on this.”


    “It’s time for another comeback, It’s time to” — yes — “make America great again.”


    “I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.”

    The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity, but that she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know (pause) there’s a reaction in her that doesn’t go away and it comes out in the wrong way.”


     
  3. Condor060

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    They have tons of accusations unitl you ask them to provide a single example.
    Then its magically whataboutism
     
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  4. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yea, it gets old.
     
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    No, those are racist comments from Biden.
    lol


    There is nothing about that statement that is racist.
    What else ya got


    Just because someone uses the word racial, doesn't make the sentence racist lol


    Stating facts about what someone else harbors as fear, isn't racism. lol

    This is the best you can come up with?
    Too funny[/QUOTE]
     
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  6. Condor060

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    How about ANY example.
    One video is all it takes.
    And you can't even come up with that.
    Sad
     
  7. FatBack

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    It's absolutely relevant because you people that voted for Joe Biden who said all of these things are now pretending to have some major problem with Tucker for saying much less.

    It makes the show of concern seems somewhat ungenuine
     
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    I don't think being racist makes somebody automatically scum.
     
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    West coast of US whole life. Of course I've heard the expression "mess with one bean get the whole burrito," for example, but just because something is notorious doesn't mean it's empirically true. I need data, not anecdotes and rumors. But even if it was "true" in some way, phrasing it that way pretends honorable fighting is a function of race, rather than culture or individual integrity. That's what makes it racist.
     
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    You voted for the biggest racist of all so you might want to sit this one out
     
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    That's so silly of him too expect intellectually honest consistency from both sides....
     
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    I'm the one asking for consistency here. You called trans activists Nazi-like for engaging in the EXACT behavior that anti-trans people do. So are they both Nazi like or are neither of them Nazi-like for doing so? I have a consistent answer. Why can't you provide one? Or was it silly of me to expect intellectually honest consistency?
     
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    If the truth is racist then I guess for you the truth will be racist
     
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    Are you still trying to pretend a simple boycott is anything like leftist cancel culture?

    Do you think part of free speech is doxing where people's kids go to school and showing up in front of their house at night with a bull horn and trying to pressure their employers to fire them and publishing all of their private information publicly?
     
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    Everything else you mentioned, including doxing, is something that anti-trans people also do. Why is okay when your side does it but "Nazi-like" when the other side does the same? Is it "Nazi-like" when anti-trans people dox, or does that only apply to pro-trans people? I'd appreciate some consistency here.
     
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    No you don't quite get it. Even if one racial background is more likely to gang up on people, one could attribute it to their subculture rather than their race and not be racist. To automatically assume this proves honorable fighting is a function of race (rather than culture and individual integrity, e.g.), is racist. Tucker phrased it in a way that assumes honorable fighting is a function of race. That is racist.
     
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    Happy to have a reputation of denouncing white supremacy.
     
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  18. FatBack

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    Pointing out facts is not racist. The fact is if you get in a fight with a black person you are far more like me to have to fight several of them then one at a time if any of them happened to be nearby.

    That is simply a fact and it's the behavior of so many black people who make it a fact.

    If they didn't engage in behavior like that it would not be a fact that anyone would able to point out.
     
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  19. FatBack

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    That's pretty funny since you voted for Joe Biden who has a long history of uttering such racist things.
     
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    Which Bud light executive has been subjected to such behavior?

    When is the last time conservatives gathered outside of someone's house with a bull horn in the middle of the night?

    Go on, give some examples
     
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    We were talking about doxing. I can see why you needed to flee from that. As for bull horns, why is it okay to use them during the day, but "Nazi like" to use them at night? I don't even recall the Nazis using bull horns. When did that happen?
     
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    I hope nobody takes this thread as an opportunity to double down on Tucker's racist comment. I'd prefer if it were understood that white supremacy is a bad thing.
     
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    We were speaking of it in the context of the Bud light controversy and now that you can't bring up any examples you have to try to turn that to something different.

    I can see why you needed to flee from that
     
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    Holding your own ethnicity to a higher standard than other ethnicites isn't usually considered 'racist.' Maybe it should be, but as a similar example, I don't think black folks who were particularly dissapointed in Obama for failing to improve the lives of black Americans because they viewed Obama as 'one of them' thus means they are racist either. It appears you are expecting 'color-blindedness' from Tucker. What are your views on the benefits/detriments of 'color-blindedness' as it pertains to 'institutional racism'? I ask because 'colorblindedness' these days is generally viewed as one of the primary causes of institutional racism by those typically held as the 'experts' on it.
     
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  25. FatBack

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    I don't really care if the truth hurts your feelings.

    Again you voted for Joe Biden knowing about the long list of racist comments he has said that far exceed anything that Tucker has said.... But yet you didn't have a problem with it and you voted for him anyways.

    Now when you reply to this post if you should decide to do so, make sure and do what you customarily do and erase my paragraph above this one from the post
     

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