Supreme Court Outrages Republicans With Split Decision Ruling

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  1. gamma875

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    That may very well be so, but the remaining question is whether there will be enough pigs raised in humane conditions that will be so classified at the
    slaughterhouses, which can not change anything about how the animals are raised.
     
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    I don't know that, but the word "humane" has different connotations for different people. I am definitely not a PETA person or uphold their political agenda. But I do think that in the age of swine flu, bird flu, and other such diseases, it may be necessary to have these measures in place to prevent those types of diseases from spreading more quickly to the heard or flock of chickens in a cramped-up space.
     
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    I am not in Cali, nor am I an animal right activist, to each their own. I make my own choices and so should everyone else. Freedom is great.
     
  4. Kal'Stang

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    Why do you think they gave their power to all those agencies? Because then they wouldn't be held responsible for crappy or unpopular regulations. The President could be, and usually is. But what does that matter? A President has term limits and is forced to be replaced anyways. But the people who make the regulations stay. And keep making policies in a one hat fits all position. And if they do go too overboard then they can be removed. But those in Congress still keep their jobs. Because they can just point fingers at the Executive Branch.

    If they were forced to address those issues that all those other agencies take care of then they would be the ones that would have to take responsibility. And we'd have people who would listen to their constituents a lot more because they know they'd have no one to blame and their job wouldn't be as secure. Because what they do is reported on much more widely than some anonymous bureaucrat. And they'd have a harder time pandering to people on things that they shouldn't even be addressing anyways.

    In addition the Executive Branch would lose a lot of the power it has now. Without the ability to regulate like it does, it actually has very little power. Its power was in enforcement and negotiation with other countries and control over the armies. That's it. Now it has those, plus the ability to make up its own laws.
     
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    Congress won't be able to just "rubberstamp". The actions of Congress are always in view, unlike anonymous bureaucrats. As such it would be much harder for them to just "rubberstamp" due to The People seeing what they are doing. There's accountability to The People.

    As for "specific FDA policy"... The FDA was used as just an example. What I was talking about is stopping ALL agencies that currently have the authority to make regulations, which are enforced just like laws are, and making Congress do its job of making those regulations. Doing so would reduce the power that the Executive Branch currently has (reverting it back to what it once was). Congress Critters are far more answerable to We The People than some anonymous bureaucrat. If they want to keep their jobs they'd have to listen to us a lot more.
     
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    Lol. Congress has a 10% approval rating and a 95% re election rate. Nobody in Congress is scared of blowback. You’re funny.
     
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    Because back then people recognized their limitations.
    Safety regulations are not a matter of popularity.
     
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    That was my point, good on you! :applause:
     
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    MSN Fake News. It's a perfectly lawful and constitutional decision, supported by a mix of both Left/Right Justices.
     
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    As the system is right now that is how it is. I bet that 95% would start dropping if Congress Critters had to actually start voting on those regulations that those agencies put out.
     
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    If they're truly about safety then they should have no problems passing through Congress as the majority of people would support such. If however they're useless and just creates more red tape driving up costs, then why have em? Take a read through this: LINK: Ten Thousand Commandments 2022 - Competitive Enterprise Institute (cei.org) and this: LINK: This week in ridiculous regulations: cloudy guidance documents and potato ledprona - Competitive Enterprise Institute (cei.org)

    Of course, "safety" is always the rallying cry to institute more law. Yet how much of that "safety" is really just ways for the rich to stay/get richer or about control? (that includes politicians)

    Do you really think that Government should be this involved in our lives without some sort of accountability?
     
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    Stop being obtuse or naive.
     
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    How is that obtuse? Or naive? And why did you ignore the rest of my post? Willful ignorance?
     
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    Because it was stupid, just like the first part.
     
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    They already have such guidelines.
     
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    Got it. So, you like being micromanaged by people you know nothing about.
     
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    I will put it this way since most people get their meat from the grocery store, most do not know how animals are raised and sent to the slaughterhouse. All they know is the package they see and whether it is "USDA" approved, kosher or halal, or whatever. I am not an animal rights activist either, but we do have a population disconnect because most of us do not hunt for our food. Occasionally, we might go fishing at the coast or the lake, but a majority of us won't go hunting for wild game either, much less dress the animal before taking it to a local butcher.

    But each state has its choice to put intrastate regulations. Take fishing for instance. Alaska has some of the strictest fishing regulations in the country, especially when it comes to salmon, crab, and other fisheries. Texas has some unique regulations when it comes to hoof disease that are different than most states, but Texas is calltle king country IMO.
     
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    which is germane to the discussion at hand.
     
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    Lol. Because they are currently enjoy their 10% approval rating because the public appreciates their work on behalf of the people?
     
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    Even worse is the corruption of the foundation of the nation.
     
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    Why would they care about that number? That number isn't what gets them elected OR unelected. Its a meaningless number to them. The one they care about is the one in their individual districts.
     
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    Yes. Opinion based on law and constitution.
     
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    Party lines should never be a factor.
     
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    What is the best way
     
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    We do. For the most part.
    Due to FDA.
     

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