Most Americans (71%) Oppose Transgender Agenda

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    If I remember this case correctly, this individual had an outstanding court order requiring him to leave the US for several years that he violated. He already had his immigration case adjudicated, and he lost. And yes, she's not very bright if she thought someone with a court order to leave the country wouldn't be removed under Trump's administration.
     
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    Really? A guy slapping the bare exposed ass of a another guy who's strapped to an giant x with a leather whip? get out of here.
     
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    Does this (highlighted in bold) mean the left side of the SC is the only impartial Justices on Court? Look, even Justices can be influenced by politics, but their rulings includes the reasoning and regardless of their political slants it can be easily determined if the Constitutional law guides that opinion or not. Drawing the conclusion from just the headlines won't get you nothing but talking points, rather than the logic behind the ruling. The SC, imo, got it right with the overturning of Roe. The previous Court (as can happen) just screwed it up with Roe out of political influence.
     
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    And here's the thing; the left cares about the feelings and comfort of a tiny minority then turns around and says screw the feelings and comfort of a much larger number of women who don't want men in their locker rooms.
     
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    if you judge trends based on generations...this is concerning.
     
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    I doubt anyone who took their "family" there were surprised about anything.

    I doubt the Pence family showed up expecting a see a nativity scene.
     
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    So I should expect to see that at any event labeled "family friendly"? Or I should just assume that pride means deplorable and as such family friendly is a lower bar which means little?

    Which is it?
     
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    There wasn't anything in that parade that would have caused a movie to be rated higher than PG.
     
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    If the issue is woman need privacy and they don’t want man who dress up as woman to share their bathroom, then advocate “woman only bathroom” and advocate to build unisex bathroom for transgender people. Problem solves. You don’t have to attack transgender people or their lifestyle.
     
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    I just find the hypocrisy so damned repugnant. Worse, so prevalent.
     
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    Given that it is a major outlier, CAUTION is strongly advised.

    Here's the actual study:
    https://publications.aap.org/pediat...e-Youth-in-an-Urban?autologincheck=redirected

    This must have been a huge test:
    "Of 4730 returned surveys, 37 were found to be unreadable, and 243 were deemed mischievous responders or had <20 answered questions. An additional 1282 participants skipped questions regarding race and ethnicity or gender identity and were excluded from this analysis."

    Fewer than 20 questions answered meant the test was discarded? Nearly a quarter didn't answer the gender questions?

    Plus, this was one school district, and the standard understanding of gender identity is US wide. It seems possible that the political and social environment in that district could have been an issue.

    OR, maybe the US wide understanding of the importance of this issue needs a serious update!
     
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    So I can expect disney to have a man whip the bare ass of another man who's strapped down? Is that what you are trying to sell me?
     
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    No, I wouldn't but there again, I am not a one issue voter.

    I don't care what you think but I do see you getting outraged if a Republican president didn't sign off on an abortion rights bill.
     
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    I can't control what you expect.
     
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    I guess the left's new rule of thumb. The SC Justices aren't allowed to be influenced by their politics, ... Oh wait, unless it's supreme court justices the Democrats appoint. How naive are some to believe that they can have their cake and eat it too?

    But yes, it was just a matter of time before Dobbs was the impetus for returning Roe back to the states to decide. "Decide" is the keyword. People who don't want states rights can just lump it. It's the very foundation of our country. If the Democrats gain the majority in the House, they'll have a chance to change it to federal law. That is, IF they have a Democrat president in the WH.
     
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    No, religion does intersect with the issues here.

    Let's remember that the only major religious family that opposes abortion is white evangelical Christians.

    The religious influence on issues of education and policy can't just be ignored.

    And, the "locker room" issue is a separate issue - one related to how to best handle reality.

    We're still not agreeing on the reality part. We're still at the point of accusing LGBTQ folks of having "agendas" that they clearly do not have.
     
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    I'm going by what you are trying to tell me as you fail at downplaying **** behavior at these dumbass pride parades.
     
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    I didn't see anything wrong with the video you posted.

    Nothing you say is going to change my mind about that.
     
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    Ok then I would suggest your opinion is skewed based on the average, as such you probably shouldn't talk about the subject since you can't even identify the issues.
     
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    That's the kicker isn't it? I don't think they care about womens' feelings, their uncomfortableness with transgender women, (biological MEN), high jacking womens' facilities. If they did, they'd see how foolish their arguments have become.
     
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    You and I can't make people think who we want them to. If the people who transitioned are happy that is all they can expect, they can't and shouldn't expect everyone in the world to get on board and applaud their change. And the government definitely has no business forcing people to go alone with it and e their change. The only place the government needs to get involved in this is with criminal activity made against transitioned individuals. And miss gendering or insults are not criminal. And not everyone believes they can't change their sex. You hear over and over that trans women are women, they most definitely are not. Even though they seem to be better at being a women than naturally born women, just look at all the women of the year awards trans women have won.
     
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    But you’re arguing for trans men to be in a woman’s bathroom. I’m questioning if you understand what you’re arguing for. Once conservatives in Florida figure out who they are legally forcing to use a women’s room, and expecting women to comfortable with it all, they are probably going to second guess themselves.

    You want this person in a women’s restroom?
    https://www.npr.org/2015/04/19/400826487/transgender-man-leads-mens-health-cover-model-contest
     
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    Roe was the SC ruling for 50 years. That is NOT "the previous court".

    Throughout that time it withstood large numbers of cases decided by the SC, as brought by those opposed to women's personal bodily autonomy.

    The idea that the ruling suddenly needed to be changed is purely political in origin. There is NO other justification.

    The SC is not supposed to be flipping its rulings, as the result is the chaos one sees today. That's why the court supports (or USED TO support) stare decisis - the faith in previous decisions and the importance of a consistent court.

    So, now the principle in the SC is that rulings can flip based on partisan politics - counter to the FUNDAMENTAL reason for justices to have life terms and a focus on the constitution rather than politics.

    This is a remaking of the SC. In any reading of decisions by Thomas we see anything BUT an examination of precedent and the constitution. And, those chosen for the court based on their Republican partisan allegiance are supportive of that SC reformation.
     
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    I am uncomfortable with this person using a women’s restroom. Why are you?


     

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