Donald Trump indicted on 7 counts in classified documents probe

Trump's little soldiers should worry about Meadows doing any kind of flip.
The latest news from Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony is that the night before Biden took office she carried out boxes to Meadow's car and put them in the trunk.
One box had no top and there were visible documents marked classified.
Hopefully Smith isn't going too easy on Meadows.


'Team Trump Suspects His Former Chief of Staff Is a ‘Rat’'
'The former president is sending his attorneys and allies on 'fact-finding' missions about what Mark Meadows is up to. They've returned with no answers but lots of suspicions'

snip:

'Trump was referring to his former White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows. Justice Department investigators and Special Counsel Jack Smith’s office had been keen on questioning Meadows under oath about Trump’s efforts to subvert the 2020 election and to hoard government documents. And it’s been an ongoing mystery to Trump and his team how much Meadows has given the feds, and whether or not he’s actually cooperating. Months ago, Meadows and his lawyer severed communications with most of Trumpland, in a move that continues to frustrate people working to keep the now twice–indicted former president out of deeper legal peril.

The Trump attorneys and advisers who went looking for answers returned with bad news for Trump: They couldn’t figure out what was going on, leaving them to repeat rumors and speculation'
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cont:
https://archive.is/jCqMl

 

No holds barred Jeff.

'Donald Trump just can't stop ****ing that chicken'
' classified document thief confesses to classified document thievery'

JEFF TIEDRICH
JUN 20, 2023

snip:

'the stupidest ****ing moron in the entire universe has the right to remain silent. too bad he doesn’t have the ability.

last night, the twice-indicted twice-impeached popular-vote-losing insurrection-leading serial-sexual-predating casino-bankrupting hush-money-paying real-estate-scamming classified-war-plan-thieving weather-map-defacing tax-cheating charity-defrauding money-laundering fluorescent tangerine jackass went on Fox News, pulled out a ****-shovel, and dug himself deeper.


the compulsive blabbermouth sat there for forty-nine minutes and twenty-nine seconds and basically confessed to every crime he’s been charged with.

any good lawyer would have been telling Trump to shut the **** up. “no comment” should have been the only thing out of Donny’s mouth from the moment he left that Miami courtroom following his indictment.

but Donald Trump doesn’t have any good lawyers. Donald Trump has traffic court lawyers. Donald Trump has parking garage lawyers. and the dumbfuck won’t even listen to them.

no, Donald Trump gets his legal advice from Tom “I Am Definitely Not A Lawyer, Why Are You Even Listening To Me” Fitton, the crackpot who told Trump that it was definitely cool and not at all a federal crime to steal classified war plans and stash them in a golf motel *******.'

cont:
https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/donald-trump-just-cant-stop-****ing

 

I'll have to take your word for it that his is an
"intentional cosmetic application," and I see no reason to do that. Maybe he does. I can't understand what his motivation would be.

 

You seriously think that's his natural skin color, even though you can easily see the lines of where it stops and where his paler skin begins? Really? Really? Where on earth does that exist as a natural skin color?

 

Don't get your hopes up. This will be going on for months. Hopefully, there is a trial before the elections so that voters will be fully informed.

Politico reports, "Donald Trump’s criminal trial for hoarding military secrets at Mar-a-Lago has a starting date — Aug. 14 — but don’t expect it to hold.

"U.S. District Court Judge Aileen Cannon bookmarked the last two weeks in August for the historic trial, part of an omnibus order setting some early ground rules and deadlines for the case. That would represent a startlingly rapid pace for a case that is expected to be complicated and require lengthy pretrial wrangling over extraordinarily sensitive classified secrets.

"But a review of Cannon’s criminal cases since she took the bench in late 2020 suggests this is standard practice for the Florida-based judge. She typically sets trial dates six to eight weeks from the start of a case, only to allow weeks- or months-long delays as issues arise and the parties demand more time to prepare. While her order on Tuesday starts the clock on a slew of important pretrial matters in the Trump case, it’s not likely to resemble anything close to the timeframe that will ultimately govern the case.

"Cannon’s order comes after a weekend in which Trump continued to raise eyebrows — and certainly catch the ear of his prosecutors — with a Fox News interview in which he acknowledged intentionally withholding documents from the federal government, claiming he wanted to sift through them for personal items."

In other words, Trump is now claiming that his golf shirts and shoes were mixed in with Top Secret documents vital to our nation's security.

Trump needs help. He is not well.

But he is adored by a majority of grassroots Republicans who think he will make a good President ... again.

 

What skin condition does he have? None I’ve ever heard of.

 

Apparently, Fox's Brit Hume agrees with that analysis.

Yahoo!News reports, "Longtime Fox News analyst Brit Hume didn’t hold back on Monday after Donald Trump’s rambling performance during an interview with the right-wing network.

“His answers on the matters of the law seem to me to verge on incoherent,” he told Bret Baier, who spoke with the former president.

"Trump, who pleaded not guilty last week to 37 charges related to the classified documents scandal, said he didn’t give back the material when subpoenaed because he’s been “very busy” and hasn’t had the time to go through the boxes to sort out his personal items.

"Hume attempted to sum up Trump’s comments to Baier: “He seemed to be saying that the documents were really his, and that he didn’t give them back when he was requested to do so and when they were subpoenaed because, y’know, he wasn’t ready to because he hadn’t sorted them and separated the classified information or whatever from his golf shirts or whatever he was saying.”

"Eventually, Hume practically gave up trying to decipher it.

“It was not altogether clear what he was saying, but he seemed to believe that the documents were his, that he had declassified them ― evidence to the contrary ― and therefore he could do whatever he wanted with them,” he said. “I don’t think it’s gonna hold up in court.”

"Hume also noted that Baier gave Trump a chance to deliver a message to the suburban female voters that turned against him in 2020.

“His answer was to talk about how he didn’t lose the 2020 election,” Hume noted. “I don’t think that’s an appealing message for the future.”

"He said the interview probably didn’t go over very well among those trying to advise the former president.

“I’m sure his legal and political advisers were wincing all the way through his answers on both those points.” he concluded.

 

Trump is an arrogant fool (FOOL). He does not listen to his legal counsel when they tell him NOT to discuss the case. He thinks he knows better than anyone. This just verifies his ignorance and stubbornness. His big mouth is only digging him deeper and deeper .
An aside: but the good news is that his poll numbers are decreasing . Maybe some are starting to wake up from their self induced Trump coma.

 

The operative word is "sane"

 

IF his personal stuff was mixed up in the boxes of classified documents.
That only indicates how disorganized he is, and how little respect he has for government documents (material) one can only imagine who saw those docs as he showed them off as "keepsakes" HOW CAN THIS IDIOT BE TRUSTED?? He CAN'T. He does not have an ethical bone in his body. He continually exhibits very poor (and immature) judgement, and is so self centered , he cannot be objective. After four years in office , he still talks like a juvenile ,vengeful fool.

 

It's called Prison Orange and he might actually wear it??!!!

 

Why how many posts do you read here about Biden being senile, old, demented, etc. Your selectivity as to what partisan remarks bother you Monsieur Le Chef speaks loudly.

By the way the orange skin remarks escalated what some idiot spokesperson for Trump denied he used self tanning gook and claimed he had good genes. This is what started the jokes. Up until then his skin like his idiot hair do and dyed hair were just part for his narcissistic course. Yah Reagan used hair dye and tanning lotion too. Hilary Clinton ate children with pizza.

 

Hmmmmm, maybe the Orange Stain is trying to set up a diminished capacity defense.

 

Then he'd have to admit that he's no longer that "stable genius" he claimed he once was, eh?

 

I know, but they didn't charge him with NARA violations, because there are no penalties associated with the PRA. That's why they have contorted the law by charging him with the Espionage Act. They don't care that going after Trump as a spy flies in the face of the spirit of the law or Congressional intent behind the Espionage Act if Trump isn't really a spy. These are the same people who sat on evidence of Biden corruption that exonerated Trump during the first impeachment hoax. There was sufficient grounds for inquiring with Zelensky about Biden's dealings with Ukraine, and if Trump was allowed to proceed, there is an excellent chance we would not be on the verge of WW3, and approaching half a million Ukrainians would be alive.

 

Hopefully @Le Chef will get back to me on that unique skin condition.

 

He may lose some support, but his cultists will claim it was a genius move as a defense against bogues charges. They can still vote for him since he was faking the condition.

 

But the PRA is what applies, not the Espionage Act. Otherwise the PRA would have made clear that classified records were not applicable to it, and fall under the Espionage Act, and Executive orders and classification rules established by the Executive. It makes no such distinction that I'm aware of.

 

You're 10 steps ahead of his little devotees.

 

Yep, he kept some documents. And there's only one entity within our 3 branch government that has the authority to override that discretion, regardless of how foolish or dangerous it seems, and that is the current Chief Executive. Not Congress (and by holding Trump to account for his document discretion through a law IS Congress checking the President's discretion). Congress has as much power to bind the POTUS to a method of authoring, or retaining Executive documents, as the POTUS has on setting Senate Committee rules: none.

But Biden has consistently claimed he is not involved in the case. Which begs an important question: Can Biden delegate the discretion to override Trump's discretion, and which lower federal officer, in this case, was delegated the power to question the former Chief Executive's discretion, independently, from the current Chief Executive?

 

Links for both claims.

Trump charged with being a spy
Ukraine evidence sat on during Trump impeachment.

Lots of theories but no evidence aka Rudy Giuliani.

 

The first sentence you bolded is half opinion. And keep in mind, if the prosecutor charges a person under the Espionage Act, then that prosecutor better believe the person is acting as a spy, because that's the intent of that la.

The 2nd is about this federal form that alleges Biden corruption in Ukraine. That's sort of the evidence that Trump is entitled to have when he is being impeached for inquiring about Biden's corruption. But nobody told him about that form throughout the entire impeachment trial. Someone at the FBI, or within our government knew that form was filed, and they just sat there and watched Trump be falsely impeached, without mentioning it. I can't link their omission of this document in the first impeachment trial. I can link the entire transcript I guess, and you can verify yourself that it was never mentioned.

 

Not quite.

'Here’s what the law says'

'The specific language in 18 US Code 793 (e), which is cited in the indictment against Trump, goes like this, and I’ve put the key portion in bold:

(e)Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or …

That’s the whole point here. The National Archives and the FBI tried repeatedly over time to get the material back. But the government has accused Trump of hiding from the government and his own lawyers.'

 

Giuliani is the originator of that "form" which included the claim of having these 17 "tapes"
Giuliani didn't need the FBI/DOJ to get the info to Trump, he was with or in contact with Trump on a regular basis with his latest "smoking gun" evidence.
Giuliani was spewing on TV and in interviews all his so-called evidence so there's no way in hell that Trump was unaware of this "form" including Trump's lapdog Billy Barr having reviewed it and supposedly sent it to other agents outside of DC (I forget which state) to investigate.
There wasn't and still isn't credible evidence that can be used for anything other than right-wing wishful thinking.

 

The key words are in the 1st line: "unauthorized possession". Trump was authorized to possess the documents when he was in office, and when he left, if and until Biden decides to override Trump's discretion, and he feels that the documents in Trump's possession represent a threat to national security (or in a subordinate's opinion who elevates it to Biden, and he agrees), OR Biden needs the documents to perform his executive duties. Biden could then negotiate to get the documents back, request their return, or, depending on the national security urgency, even seize the documents.

And no they didn't "try" to get the documents from Trump. We know that because there was never a contempt charge for violation of a court order. That means that either Trump complied with all orders, or they never ordered him to return anything. If one felt national security was at risk, a court order to hand them over would be the FIRST thing one applied for (if requests or negotiations failed) and if not complied with, one would immediately seek a contempt charge from a judge, in order to effect a seizure.

Show me a contempt charge, and I'll agree they "tried" to get the documents back