Turns out the gay wedding website case was faked

I did use my degree. Odd you would claim I didn’t. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

if you actually believe that is what Senile Biden thinks, I cannot help you. You labor under the delusion that if I oppose paying off the loans of people who entered into them, with the taxes of others, I must want to wast taxes on your fraudulent claims of it going to billionaires. and like it or not-our military is a constitutional function of our government-while pandering to deadbeats is not

 

How do you know they don't need it? You are using that an excuse to justify your believe. How about the people who paid off loans 12 months before Biden announced his giveaway/handout package? You have evidence they didn't need it? Talk about an absurd position lol.

Society doesn't benefit as a whole from some randomly selected group getting their loans forgiven. Let's not pretend you are doing this because you care about the economy. You don't. You are doing it because like Biden you support the Democrats whoring themselves out to buy votes. For every economist you provide who says loan forgiveness is good for the economy I will provide two who says it is not. Bidenflation is bad enough as it is and you people want to make it worse.

 

If it's so worthless they why did they go to college in the first place?

 

I don’t think he thinks anything. I am speaking to overall and general platforms.

Again, I and speaking of general policy. And economists have expressed concern what unpausing student loan payments will do.

If it will be an overall benefit to the nation, slow or eliminate a chance of recession and increase GDP would you be ok with loan forgiveness? It’s the exact same argument that was used to bail out companies.

 

If I had wheels I might want more railways.

 

You cannot need loan forgiveness in the current if you have no loans. WTF are you even going on about? Does a person who isn’t diabetic need insulin?

That depends on what it impacts — economics agree this will hurt the nation in the long term.

I would support this (or at minimum eliminating interest rates and capping costs for loans) no matter who proposed it. Unlike you I do not base my views on who it harms and if it gives my team a boost. I support republicans and democrats benefiting. I want you and your children (if any of you need it) and any one else that needs it to have a portion of my taxes to have healthcare and education because I know it will increase life expectancy and happiness in this nation.

Thanks for projecting your views though — as if they were already not apparent

Here are 42 economists with the majority saying something should be done

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/2...ncomes-is-preferable-to-forgiving-it-for-all/

Other items I would support would be completely reforming the system so that at minimum community colleges are “free” while helping some with current debts (caping interest and allowing bankruptcy)

If you think allowing people that are struggling to exist, unable to start families or buy a house is what is causing inflation and not unheard of corporate profits and real estate speculation / firm investment then we will just have to disagree.

 

Yet another simple question that you seem to be unable to respond to. Such a fascinatingly fragile narrative.

 

Sometimes degrees are overvalued, sometimes they are taken for the ease of passing, others go due to outside influences.

I was on a path to a useless degree until they swapped by councilor with someone who actually loved her job and I reevaluated my entire situation. Had that not happened I would likely have one of those useless generalized degrees.

 

you ask a silly hypothetical. I think my response was proper. You might as well have asked would I vote for Biden if doing so would guarantee no cancer, no crime, no one in poverty, and no undercooked green bens ever

 

Except numerous economists have said exactly that — no legislate individual has said electing the turnip would accomplish any of that.

You just cannot answer without it exposing your narrative. At least your are intelligent enough to see the cognitive dissonance. A shame you don’t want to do anything about it.

 

I deny the claims of leftists that Biden's give away is really anything more than a pimp trying to pander to those who think others ought to pay for what they want.

 

The youth are going to vote for him anyway because y’all keep putting up quasi-fascists. I would rather have a turnip than the anti-woke no policies the right worships.

 

what are the fascist programs the GOP pushes
democrats are trying to disarm the citizens-that's a major fascist goal
wake is a disease that needs to eliminated from our political and social fabric. It's a form of virulent intolerance

 

Controlling speech they don’t like, banning books, criminalizing bodily autonomy, pushing fraudulent election narratives, advocating the death of opponents.

Also, most of the policy that is supported by the left is gun control (enhanced background checks, red flag laws, secondary sale background checks) — not complete bans.

Thanks for proving my point.

 

That many years, and all the appeals, and the state never once brought it up? And it's been part of the case since shortly after it was filed? Really? That's got to be one dumb States attorney to have never once.thought to challenge an easy perjury charge.

 

I've already shown you that what is being reported by your OP link is fake. Why are you continuing to act as if its true?

 

Key word there I believe is "did". Now it just sits on a dusty old shelf. Useless.

 

The degree did it's job. Not sure why you think it should do more than that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Huh? Whatever you learned in college three decades ago is likely completely outdated now, unless you studied ancient Roman poetry, or something like that. Any sort of degree in science or computers, etc., will all have evolved over time. A degree gets you in the door. It's up to you to take it from there to make sure you stay relevant in your chosen field, by staying in the loop on new information coming out in your profession. These may look like trade magazines, white papers or continuing education classes, or conferences. There are all sorts of ways we need to continue learning to stay up to date.

Would you really want to have an operating room date with a surgeon whose learned nothing since he graduated med school in 1982?

 

Except that according to ECA he didn't stay relevant in his field. He chose do to something completely different and not relevant to his degree. As such, he has a worthless degree sitting on a shelf collecting dust. If he had stayed with his chosen field (history) then he no doubt would have done exactly what you say here. As such his degree would not be worthless. But he didn't. He went into a healthcare field instead. Unless that healthcare field is the history of healthcare? From the way he has spoken that is not what happened either.

A degree isn't just some piece of paper. Its a notice to people that you are serious about your chosen field. That you are serious enough to spend thousands of dollars to get and countless hours to learning your skill and stay relevant. But if you don't stick with it, don't stay relevant in what that degree is about, then it becomes worthless. Because as you say, its completely outdated now.

 

I'm not sure how old you are, but I'm looking at 60, soon, and I don't know anyone who uses their degree, unless they are doctors, lawyers or engineers. I studied group dynamics and training in college, and I went into databases and software. That doesn't make my degree meaningless. I developed useful skills in college.

The point is to learn how to think, how to do good research, how to ask meaningful questions, etc.. It's not about memorizing dates and names, unless you need to know the name of every nerve in the body, of course.

An IT degree from 1985 is useless today, even if that person is still working in IT today.

We may be having two discussions, here, though. Perhaps you are discussing people who are $100K in debt and are shilling coffee? In that case, yes, they went to college with seriously uninformed expectations. That is a completely different thing.

 

Sometimes doesn't equal a worthless piece of paper. And if someone picks a major with low job prospects then maybe they should pick one with higher job prospects. It isn't brain surgery to figure that out.

 

Then using your definition of "need forgiveness" many of those who would have had their loans forgiven eventually would have been able to pay them back. In fact the vast majority. Those who have already paid their loans off were in the same income bracket as those deemed worthy of left wing forgiveness. The only difference between someone making $50K a year and just paid off their loans vs the person making $50K per year who gets their loan forgiven is that the first person gets screwed.

This says nothing about whether or not it is good for the economy. All it says is they support it and regressive vs progressive. Nothing about economic impact as you stated. Funny you say you don't support a bill based upon who proposes it and yet there you are supporting the typical left wing goody bag.

I never said the reason for current inflation is any of those things. But nice straw man. But it certainly isn't real estate speculation or corporate profits.

 

We are dealing with teenagers.
Many of them were misled