7 Candidates on the right eligible for debate, who do you like?

So basically you'll never be voting ever again. I totally get it.

 

It would seem so. At least it saves me a little time. I would vote again for a true reformer if one were to surface. Like you, I doubt that will happen.

 

It will never happen. We were promised a "draining of the swamp" recently and it never happened. Our govt is too big of a machine.

 

I agree. But I refuse to be a part of what it is. Sorry.

 

There really is only one that I have any interest in, and that's Tim Scott. I am waiting for the field to clear itself before I do any real research, but Conservatives really need to step back from those with excessive baggage.... even with best intentions, they would be fighting battles on multiple fronts that would likely prevent them from doing anything beneficial for this country.

 

No apologies needed. I total get where you're coming from.

 

Tim Scott is a nice man with a warm and friendly message. That he would be able to handle the job, however, is questionable for me. The job isn't warm and friendly.

 

Unfortunately, Tim Scott will be one of the first to drop out of the race and probably will endorse Trump when February 2024 rolls around. That is when we had one GOP caucus and two GOP primaries. Currently, Tim Scott is polling with about 1% of GOP support.

 

I have no idea what president you voted.

What I will say, most of the post I have read from you, you are more independent then most of the member in this forum who claim to be independent. In many topics I have seen you agree with me, and other topic you have opposite view. Very classic independent view.

Having said all that, going to 3rd party because “none of them deserve my vote” is avoiding responsibility. Every day we make hundreds of decisions regardless we like it or not. In life, we choose from what is in front us and not what we wish in front of us. There is no such thing as a perfect choice or perfect candidate. In Nov 2024 there will be very clear choice – either Trump will be POTUS or Biden. Rather then making the hard choice , some want to vote 3rd party because they don’t want to take responsibility of their choice.

 

I disagree that I'm not taking "responsibility". I have every right to vote for whom I choose to. I cast a vote for a person who is on the ballot. My voting third party has nothing to do with not wanting to take responsibility for my choice. I take full responsibility for ANY vote I cast.
I mean no offense, but I gave you a hint as to why, when I have voted for Repubs in the past, it didn't matter. It has nothing to do with any specific Repub. It has to do with the state I live in. Another hint...EC.

 

Christie promises to be the most fun. It's unfortunate that Trump can't stand up to him in a debate.

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As I said, I let attrition take care of narrowing the field. Other than Scott, there is no one in either main party that I am interested in. Neither contender for either party has anything positive to contribute, IMO. We need fresh blood, fresh ideas and a new direction.

 

And what happens if your choice is between Biden, Trump, and third party candidates once that attrition is complete?

 

If Trump is the GOP nominee, he will lose, probably lose big, and then claim that the election was a fraud and that he actually won. By a landslide so big, he couldn't believe it, trust me.

Trump is a curse on this country. With luck, he will be tried and convicted and put in prison where he so richly deserves to be.

 

Third party voting is nothing new to me. Write in voting is nothing new to me. I vote for whomever will do the most good for the country, while aligning with most of my preferences on topics.

Why do you ask?

 

Tim Scott may be competent, but to win, he will need big bucks, and the GOP big spenders are almost certainly not going to fund Scott. Not hard to guess why.

 

Not no but hell no we need change not more of the same which is all so called no labels will deliver.

Well christie is there to blast trump at every opportunity.

 

Faced with a tough practical choice, it's always easier to cop out and cast one's ballot for someone you know is not going to win.

 

Just curious. For me, I really don't look at any of the candidates until it is at least 2 months away from the election. And when I do look at the candidates, I usually look at their platform of what they intend to do, among other things. I have my priorities for national elections of what my candidate should focus on, which I develop long before I look at candidates. And my priorities will differ from Presidental to state to local elections. But in 2016, that was my second time to vote for a third-party candidate. Did not trust either candidate in the major party. But that is what being an independent is, which in my state you cannot generally vote in primary elections, and I have maintained that philosophy since I was first eligible to vote.

In my state, you cannot do a write-in candidate anymore, at least for presidential elections, because we use a scanning device to determine who you voted for by completely filling in the box of your choice for each office.

 

I really don't think we should view voting as some sort of sport cheering on the team or person that we know will win. Voting is personal, but many people don't choose a third party candidate because they want to vote for a "winner" or that letter behind the name.

 

False.
Voting for the bottom of the barrel is not a positive solution. If neither member of the duopoly address the topics that matter to you, then voting for either one is not only a political sell out, you are enabling the duopoly to continue to scrape the bottom of the barrel.

To enact change, it needs to start somewhere.

 

Anyone who is actually trying to change how government is done in this country is going to face everything that Trump faced plus any new wrinkles the administrative state can dream up in the mean time.

 

More of the same is two parties, each trying to ram their agendas down the throats of everyone, causing gridlock. That's what would be the same.

 

We have electronic voting, and the ability to select 'other' on both local and POTUS, or at least we did.

I agree with priorities being different between the levels of public servants. I've votes one way on this level, and the other way on that level, and third party when that candidate best fits my goals.

 

I don't disagree. It's not going to be an easy task to bring the congressweasels under control, and to tame the extremism on both sides that is rotting the core of the country.