A store owner was killed over a Pride flag she flew in front of her California business

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    The cops weren't there when it went down.
     
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    JET3534 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, a fact I noted as well. Maybe they used the ASS-U-ME approach for crafting an initial press statement.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    I guess this dudes going to be a "Japanese supremacist".
     
  4. Collateral Damage

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    I've already stated that no confrontation needs to get to the point of shooting. That STILL does not clarify the details about what occurred.

    * Edited to add, NOW we have some details. The stupidity of the shooter is a sad thing.
     
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    Im not going to write out a book for you, but here is just one article about it.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/threats-l...epartment-homeland-security/story?id=99338137

    And yes, uptick in threats also is an uptick in violence. because more of those threats get carried out. I know youll try and find some word symantics though to try and negate that.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who is saying he is white? Yesterday the complaint was that they didn't describe him.

    What is he? Half white, half Asian?
     
  7. Turin

    Turin Well-Known Member

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    Na. Hate speech is hate speech. When you call for violence, and public shunning of a particular group of people, thats hateful. Not just a disagreement.
     
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    Where is the quantitative data in the article you posted? That article is a claim unsupported by any statistical or empirical data. Do you know what quantitative data even is? This is the sort of stuff that should be taught in high school.

    Here is some educational material that may help.
    https://libguides.usc.edu/writingguide/quantitative
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ideology matters much more than race.
    He was a christofascist and the agenda of the right to promote the LGBT flag as a war is showing to be successful.

    One of the many reasons I have helped or pushed numerous people in the LGBT community arm themselves
     
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    As always, your post aged beautifully
     
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    Yoi don't think they have the ability to find out what happened? Especially with witnesses present?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    guess they forgot about the "thou shalt not kill" commandment
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It doesn't seem to be the case.
     
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    No clue what you are talking about (lol).
     
  16. FreshAir

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    big ol Cross to say, look at me, I am a Christian - seems some churches are grooming these people to hate lgbtq folks

    https://www.vpsreports.com/post/man...a-far-right-religious-zealot-and-son-of-a-cop

    "The Lake Arrowhead shooter has been identified by the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department as 27-year-old Travis Ikeguchi. He was extremely active in the online right-wing ecosystem of hate in the United States, regularly posting about his far-right extremist beliefs on Gab and Twitter/X. He supported Donald Trump in 2016 but became far more devoted to a Christian nationalist worldview driven by antisemitic conspiracy theory culture."

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    Except gay people (as with tons of others) were exceptions to that rule waaaaaaaaaaaay back in Exodus.
     
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    That's some unbiased source you've got there. They have a huge paintbrush, which is pretty sad.

    An INDIVIDUAL did this. An obviously sick and malicious one.

    While I am not a 'Republican', the idea that hate sources such as what you quoted feed this paintbrush trash to the public is increasing the division and anger.
     
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    He was a nut case, i.e. mentally ill. But people should arm themselves for self defense.

    I have to add that your "agenda of the right to promote the LGBT flag as a war" seems like extreme paranoia. I live in a conservative State, West VA, and these flags are all over the place and no one gives a flying [expletive].
     
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    Yep. And nut cases like him are part of the reason why.
     
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    I posted it for the picture, but it does seem he was radicalized by the far religious right

    glad they got many of his posts posted online before face book and such removed it
     
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    Killed by police after shooting at them...

    "Travis Ikeguchi's Social Media Filled With Anti-LGBTQ Posts Before Shooting"

    https://www.newsweek.com/travis-ikeguchi-social-media-filled-anti-lgbtq-posts-1821504

    "He regularly posted and reposted Bible verses in between anti-LGBTQ+ and anti-abortion content"

    "He was killed by sheriff's deputies later on Friday during a confrontation about a mile from the store after opening fire on them, striking multiple patrol vehicles, Dicus said. The deputies returned fire and shot Ikeguchi, who died at the scene."
     
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    Why not? He's Japanese.
     
  25. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    They have the ability to hear someone else's version of events
     

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