Ohio police release video of fatal shooting of pregnant Black woman

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, not completely innocent.
     
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    What is the fetus guilty of?
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Of course you can't because, to you, the only acceptable action for an alleged criminal is to shot first and ask questions later. If you're black and the police show up, unless you immediately lay spread eagled on the ground there's a good chance you'll get shot.
     
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    True. Nothing wrong with that.
    Almost anything other than what did.
    Every situation is different, but in this case, watching what happened, the officer escalated the situation and put himself in harm's way. To answer your question....no, he should not have fired his weapon. He, both, created the situation. Was the woman wrong? Sure. Did she deserve to be shot? Absolutely not.
     
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    You're making a false assumption.
    Think whatever you like, doesn't matter in the long run.
    You course of action is always surrender or be shot. Doesn't matter the situation. In this case, it's shoplifting....allegedly.
     
  6. Lil Mike

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    No one was arguing the veracity of the shoplifting charge.
     
  7. Lil Mike

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    You could have just explained what should be police SOP in that situation. The fact that you can't do that is why you had to resort to a personal attack, plus a little racism mixed in.

    When you're done with your rant, come back and explain how police should be trained nation wide to handle these type of situations.
     
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    No, I never said, "surrender or be shot."

    I would say however to not try to run down a police officer.
     
  9. FreshAir

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    all I did is point out it was "Alleged" shoplifter

    and at this point, sounds like she had not shoplifted alcohol, at least the police found no alcohol in the car that we have heard thus far
     
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    to be fair, police like to play cat and mouse with white people too, sadly some cops look for excuses and escalate for no good reason
     
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    That's really not the issue is it?
     
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    Another day in America - the same people who think a drag queen reading a book to kids is the end of the world have no issue with cops killing a pregnant woman.
     
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    Lay spike strips in front of the car
     
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    it's part of it, if she was falsely accused, that is why the police were there
     
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    that is a simple solution, and safer than standing in front of a running car too
     
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    Then perhaps the SOP should be reviewed. The deescalation would have been to not stand in front of the car and not to draw a gun over a shoplifting complaint. Catching her at a later date is not letting her go scot-free. Following her is not setting her free either. To think the outcome was the best possible given the situation is unacceptable to me. I think the police could have done better.
     
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    Wanted to push back on the standard operating procedure is to not let people go. Sometimes this is done for public safety reasons. Other times police are biding their time while they build a case and delay arrests to facilitate this. Any that believe the police never let someone go, at least for a short time are likely just unaware it does happen in select cases. In this case I think they may have have caught her down the road or at a later date. I just can’t defend a cop standing in front of a car, gun drawn over shoplifting.
     
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    Who was Ta'Kiya Young? What we know about the 21-year-old killed in Blendon Twp. shooting

    Now we know why she tried to flee from the police.
     
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    Sure you did. The lady didn't surrender and got shot and you're fine with it.
    If you watched the video, and has been pointed out already, she didn't try to run down the officer. HE got in front of the car. SHE can be seen turning the wheel to avoid him.
     
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    That is true.
     
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    Gee I wonder if there would be time to do that?
     
  22. Lil Mike

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    That only goes to how tragic this entire situation was, not to how it played out.
     
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    The would be mother would have, but died as wel.
     
  24. Lil Mike

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    The reason why the cop was standing in front of the car was to keep her from driving off. The fact that she was willing to run him over speaks to why the police acted the way they did.

    I think your idea of just letting them go and catch them later is simply a no go. If you are saying the police can't detain someone when you have several police right there on the scene, I'm not sure how she could ever be detained if she resists each time the police try to apprehend her. I don't regard that as any sort of solution at all, but since it pushes the problem down the road, rather than solving it, I can see why it would be popular in some quarters.
     
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    That's when there is a public safety issue involved. What was the public safety issue in this situation?
     

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