Musk Calls For Russia-Ukraine Truce

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  1. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Good for Elon.

    But even though he's obviously right, the "pro-Ukraine" people will insist on sending more Ukrainians to their death.

    And all the usual suspects - highly imbalanced and unstable individuals that they are - will shriek at the top of their lungs about how Elon is a Putin puppet or a Russian stooge, even though he's given Kiev well over a $1 million worth of free satellite communications.

    You see, being a "Putin puppet" simply means someone who thinks for themself and who doesn't believe every lie told by western governments and media.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, the situation is very simple once you get through the layers of misrepresentation.

    Russian forces are holding a line defending the Russian speaking populations of Donetsk
    and other locations and Ukrainian forces are killing themselves attacking the defensive line.
     
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    I have an idea.
    Why don't you tell Elon to go Moscow and tell Putin to leave Ukraine. In it's entirety.
    Even leave Crimea and anything they took in 2014.
    And just because parts of Ukraine speaks Russian, doesn't Russia should just be able to take it.
    I mean, how much of the Southwest United States speaks Spanish?
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because the US has been funding the recruiting and arming of the Western and Central Ukraine
    armed forces since 2015, maybe a bit earlier. And has been bombarding Donetsk and
    other areas populated by Russian speaking civilians at a low level since about that time.

    Russia only moved in to eastern Ukraine to protect the civilian population centers
    8 days after the munitions from the US arrived and were put into use shelling
    Donetsk Etc. .The shelling got intense on Feb 16 2022 and Russian forces moved
    in on Feb 24th.

    One question would be how and why did Russia move in to protect the cities so quickly, and
    then didn't advance at all after that?
     
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    And your source is what??.....on this intense shelling on 2-16-2022?
     
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    All it would take is for the ruscists to go home and respect Ukraine's internationally recognized borders. Why are you only attacking Ukraine and not the aggressor in this conflict?
     
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    Elon is prolonging it. It's well over a billion I'd guess. Who knows, but if Elon wanted to help end the conflict, he could cut the cord. I'd imagine he's gonna get paid back in full and probably multiples of the cost. He'll get bribed just like the rest.
     
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    Elon is far too wealthy for bribery to be much of a concern. Plus, he'd get caught.
     
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    He shut down an attack by denying them the service, I don't think any nation is going to pay for that.
     
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    You're the one who used to post RT articles on the regular - you tell me.
     
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    Liberals are angry that Elon didn't allow Kiev to start WWIII.
     
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    How many times has Kiev tried to start a hot war between NATO and Russia? I've lost count.
     
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    That's a pretty dumb idea. Try to come up with a better one.
     
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    Not such a dumb idea....

    OTOH....Ruscists will be forced to leave on their own.

    This is Putlers and RF swan song.....RuZZFeds future is entirely in limbo ATM.
     
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    Forced by who? The cannon fodder sent by the kleptocratic regime in Kiev?
     
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    Thank you for the comparison. John McCain was a good man and a great senator.

    I know I've answered you before about how I came to my senses and changed my mind. Perhaps it bothers you so much because you know deep down that you're wrong now in your views just as I was then.
     
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    John McCain was a psychotic warmonger and imperialist.

    Right. One day you just decided that the corrupt political establishment you'd been vehemently attacking for years were actually the good guys... sounds very believable.

    Not even close. I just find it amusing that the things you now accuse others of doing and being, you were guilty of yourself ten times over.

    So if you want to know why I'm only attacking Kiev, then just ask yourself from 2012. I'm sure he can tell you all the answers.
     
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    Crimea is getting hit on a daily basis....ICYMI....the Ruscists are partially scuttling tugs boats ,so drones don't get close to bridge supports....:laughing:

    "Cannon fodder" ...you mean the 800 or so bodies the RF loses?

    Kleptocratic regime in Kyiv?

    You mean the Kremlin $hit show that invaded to steal land?
     
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    Yeah...most Ruscists hated McCain....since he called them for what they are, which is wild uncivilized barbarians....:), much like Reagan did.
     
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    How many Ukrainians have died fighting so far?

    Oh, wait... the regime in Kiev won't say for some mysterious reason. In fact, it's one of the most closely guarded secrets of the entire war. It must be because the number of dead Ukrainians is so low...
     
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    Most Americans hated McCain because he was a liar, a psychopath, and a warmonger. I understand why foreign leeches liked him, though. He was very good at stealing our money and sending it overseas.
     
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    Reagan made peace with Russia. He's not your guy.
     
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    I thought you may know that??....

    According to the Ruscists....UAF is totally wiped out, since last June 2022?.....who's doing the fighting then?

    And RuZZki losses are no more than 30K.....according to Kremlin pablum?.....:laughing:
     
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    No, that would be your hero Putin.
     
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    Says you...not most Americans.

    What "foreign leeches" you talk about?
     

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