Musk Calls For Russia-Ukraine Truce

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  1. Durandal

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    Kyiv doesn't have a regime. It has a democratic government with a great president who will be fondly remembered for generations to come.
     
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    Ohhh...is that why most vatniks hated him for.....because he made peace with Gorby?:)
     
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    This is why you are suffering from cognitive dissonance. You are forced to maintain absurd opinions against all reason and evidence.

    You know, years before I came to my senses politically, I similarly came to my senses religiously and quit being a young earth creationist. It was a similar process involving a similar problem.
     
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    And sticking money in his pockets
    Amen. May he rot in hell.
     
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    Nobody knows because NATO and its puppet regime in Kiev keep the figure top secret. It must be because the war is going so well for them.
     
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    Of course....just like the Kremlin says "all is going according to plan".

    Nice try at deflecting though.
     
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    Don't be too hard on me. After all, he was your hero, too. In fact, one could be forgiven for thinking that you actually worked for the Kremlin back when you were posting their RT propaganda on a daily basis. What happened? Did the CIA offer you more money?
     
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    The Ruzzcists have the numbers ( people to die fighting) and way more resources than the Ukrainians. Let’s hold off on the victory parade until they
    President Zalensky grew up in a Russian speaking household and no one no authority no government forbade him from speaking Russian. If fact his comedy show used the Russian language. No one stopped anyone from speaking Russian in Donetsk nor anywhere in Ukraine. Therefor claiming that Moskvas forces are “defending “ Russian speaking populations is north more than a homogenized Putinesque lie that Russians and pro Russians like to repeat.
     
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    Nope, says most Americans. Democrats and Republicans have all expressed nearly universal hatred for the guy at one time or another. McCain was just a horrible person and the only people who like him are his accomplices.

    All the foreign leeches and dependents who suck up American tax dollars.
     
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    Kiev is a dictatorship. And a failed state. If you love them so much, then feel free to move to there. You would be doing America a big favor.
     
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    You keep resorting to ad hominem and avoiding the facts, which do not support your previous assertions. Why do you cheerlead this fascist invasion of Ukraine? Obviously your opinions about John McCain are irrelevant to this matter, especially since he was dead before your hero launched his little blitzkrieg.
     
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    Reagan made peace with the Russians and was a big believer in the necessity and power of diplomacy.

    In other words, Reagan was the exact opposite of you.
     
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    The "Russian speakers" are the ones that suffered the most from Russki Mir....just look at Mariupol,Donetsk, Bakhmut.
     
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    "Says most Americans"

    "Foreign leeches"


    I'm sure there is some $hithouse wall link you can quote from for your delusional claim.
     
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    Yep, not to mention those being pressed into compulsory military service to act as cannon fodder to spare Russian lives and delay Russia's defeat. Putin has gotten a hell of a lot of people killed in his ostensible bid to protect people.
     
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    Once you cancel elections and shut down the opposition parties...democratic government.
     
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    "Mr Gorby....tear down this wall"

    And the wall come a tumblin down!!.....LOL.
     
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    There's a war going on Mike....no one sent you a memo?
     
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    You used to be a young earth creationist? That explains why you're so far behind me - I had a massive head-start over you. You see, while you were studying the bible, I was studying things like mathematics, science, history, philosophy, etc.

    You're still in the early stages of learning, my guy. But don't give up. I believe in you.
     
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    Is that why RuZZian rubble is toilet paper....and Dwarfstan meeting with KJU in Vladivostok to beg for more ammo and hardware?:)
     
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    American taxpayers aren't sending a hundred billion dollars to the Kremlin, they're sending it to Kiev. And so we have a right to know how many Ukrainians have died in this war. But they refuse to tell us. Must be because they're performing so well.
     
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    No, I'm simply pointing out the fact that everything you accuse me of, you did yourself to the nth degree. I realize this makes it harder for you to smear your opponents as Kremlin loyalists, but that is rather the point. Maybe if you don't like it when I bring up your history of posting Kremlin propaganda, you should stop accusing others of it. Just a thought.
     
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    I never spent much time on the Bible, actually. Just went along with how I was raised. I managed to maintain those beliefs through years of liberal arts studies, which of course included such subjects and more. How? By ignoring facts contrary to my beliefs, because my beliefs were emotionally significant to me at the time. Even though I appreciated science, I ignored what was contradictory to my religion. It was, in short, a personal issue.

    And so it was with my political views once upon a time. I projected personal issues onto the world. I put the cart before the horse and ignored common sense and inconvenient facts in favor of an emotionally satisfying set of beliefs, and Russia's propaganda helped with that. That kind of stuff can be like a drug that supports a bad habit.
     
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    Only children focus on the words of a politician. It's their actions that really matter.

    And Reagan made peace with Russia. He signed numerous historic arms control treaties and personally befriended the leader of Russia. He even seriously contemplated the total abolition of nuclear weapons during a summit in Iceland.

    Sorry, but he wasn't your guy. He was on my team: team peace.
     

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