Sweden gangs: PM summons army chief after surge in killings

Part of that may have been because, up until relatively recently, the European country did not have very high levels of diversity.
When you have a country that's 95% white and has a strong Lutheran legacy in its culture, there aren't going to be many of those problems that you see in the U.S.
This would largely be regardless of whatever gun control laws exist or do not exist. (also, Sweden actually had slightly less restrictive laws in the early 90s on hunting rifles than the U.S. has now in many states)

One big problem that contributes to gang violence, at least in the U.S., is "latchkey kids", parents gone all day working, and then the kids are unsupervised and do not have a parent figure looking after them. The parents are either so exhausted after they get home that they do not have energy to deal with their child, or the parents are apathetic and don't care. Rates of single mother households are also much higher amongst lower income groups (although we might expect that to be less of the case with non-African Muslim immigrants).

 

If you're going to compare Sweden to the US, then compare Sweden with one state at a time, not the whole 50 states package. Likewise for any other state in the world.

 

I'd merely been scaling the number for Blinda, to make comparable, to U.S. numbers. While, at first glance, it may seem logical to use a similarly sized area and population, there are some basic ways that model does not work. The most important one, though, is that Blinda knows how it feels to live in our country, with its gun homicide rate. He either also has a sense of that number, or I can tell him what it is, so he can compare that, proportionally, with Sweden's situation. But unless he lives in the specific state I use, he won't know how that proportional number, in that particular state, compares to his current experience. Do you follow?

So let's quickly run the numbers. Of the 40-plus thousand a year who die by gunshot, the recent figure I have for "murders," specifically, is 16,651. However, most of these are not gang related. The best guide I can use is that about 13% of all homicides here, are gang related, and so assume that number holds roughly accurate for the category of gun homicides. That gives us 2,165 annual gang-related gun homicides, which works out to 178 per month (almost 6 per day) in the U S.

But scaling up Sweden's 30 gang killings among only a 10 million population, to match the U.S. population figure, would equate to-- now getting a more precise number, than my earlier, rough estimate-- 332 gang related killings in a month-- almost double the U.S. rate.

Now, of course, there's no way to make an exact comparison, because we have far more murders here, compared to Sweden, which are not gang related. But an escalation in specifically gang related violence, is something which would be more worrying and get more attention, from citizens in both countries, than just an increase in overall murders (especially here). So if gang-related gun murders were up by 86.5 %, in one month, Blinda might have a sense of how he would feel about that and, more to the point, what the national reaction might be. To repeat myself, one must remember that Americans overall have become fairly inured to hearing about shootings, so our reaction, it should be understood, would be be more dulled than it would be, almost anywhere else.



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Annual Gun Violence Impacting People of All Ages in the U.S.

42,654 people die from gun violence. 16,651 are murdered. 76,725 people survive gunshot injuries. 34,566 are intentionally shot by someone else and survive.
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How many US murders are gang-related?

These estimates suggest that gang-related homicides typically accounted for around 13 percent of all homicides annually.
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National Youth Gang Survey Analysis: Measuring the Extent of Gang Problems
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You look stressed out. You probably need t go outside and touch some grass.

 

I don't think it's that bad though.

 

What do you mean you oppose the RICO laws? Gang member is somebody who is a member of the gang. What is not clear about it. Put them all in jail.

 

No, I think Joe Biden in moments when he is conscious is a dictator. But I'm not an American, so my opinion on this subject doesn't matter.

 

You were talking about Biden being a dictator.

 

I think there are many more than 320 gang related murders in America each month. And most of it comes from the African American community for whatever reason

 

The desired number of gang related murders is zero. So it's always better to overreact than to be complacent.

 

Remember when Trump tried to warn Sweden? And the progressives went ape over it?



Oh CNN...

 

Sweden actually has 22% gun ownership but it's not hunting rifles that are doing the damage.

 

Which ones?

Probably Japan is one of the hardest to pass the licence system.

 

So what now? We warned you about too much diversity in such a short period of time. We said it would form enclaves and cause crime increase.

What now?

The problem here is that once we all figure out that this type of direction is bad, it's too late. There is no solution short of mass deportation.

What a mess. Trump warned you all.

 

Oh, so you're a member of a gang. I suspect you're already finding a way to jail yourself. I'd suggest you start your jail sentence by not posting anymore.

 

I agree with this for the most part. But I think one of main causes of gang violence is fatherless homes. Gangs give the kids male input to their lives even if it is bad input. It gives them a home away from home when mom is at work. We need to be more aggressive with gangs. No good comes from them.

 

Remember when progressives declared mass immigration was good. And we like...warned them that not only is it dangerous, it will be irreversible once you figure out that it's not "good"?

Because I do.

"all cultures are equal" amirite?

Nobody who pushed mass migration want to comment on this turn of events?

 

I did mention fatherless homes in that post when I referred to "single mother households".

 

They just refuse to recognize the problems their policies cause.

Instead their proposed solutions involve yet another new government policy, to try to "solve" it.

It reminds me of the plot in the cartoon A Dime to Retire (1955, with Porky Pig and Daffy Duck).

 

Not only do their policies lead to dead ends...they are incredibly destructive and in some cases, irreversible.

Sweden will now likely forever have neighborhoods of slums and crime that they didn't have before. It will lead to generations of racial and cultural divide and hate.

All thanks to this woke progressive push for diversity.

Good job!

 

You make no sence.

 

But at least, eventually, the Progressive Left won't be able to keep saying "Why can't we be more like Sweden?"

(trying to be positive and see the silver lining here)

 

Lol.

 

You're a member of a gang by definition.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gang#:~:text=a,group of persons working together

You say all gang members should go to jail.

What is not clear about it?

 

Here's what leadership looks like.



And oh look! No terrorist attacks, rise in crime or divide. Pay attention progressives. As hard as it is to accept, this is reality.