Canada’s house speaker apologises after praising Ukrainian veteran of Nazi unit

I don't think he was a Nazi. I know he was a Nazi. That's not in dispute.

 

How do you know that, he was a member of NSDAP or spread around Nazi or Nazi like ideas?

 

He was a member of the Waffen SS, hence a Nazi. I'm not sure what point you're getting at. I'm honestly a little confused. Can you clarify?

 

The Soviet Union was never our friend nor our friend. Remember that Communist Russia was a partner of Nazi Germany when Nazi Germany invaded Poland Russia invaded Western Ukraine and Belarus which were occupied by Poland between WWI and 1939. Then between 1939 and 1941 the Russians occupied Western Ukraine and Belarus. The Russians committed horrible atrocities in Ukraine during that period. The Russians arrested and murdered Ukrainian Catholic priests some by “boiling “ Ukrainian “ priests in oil. They ran over and murdered Ukrainian Catholic nuns with tanks. Russians murdered Polish, Ukrainian, and Jewish intellectuals , officers of the Polish army, and Polish, Ukrainian, and Jewish businessmen and Ukrainian Catholic priests in the Katyn Forrest massacre.
There were young Ukrainians who joined the “ Halych” division to get military training for a future fight against Russia to establish an independent Ukraine.
Some also joined the “Halych” division to fight Russia for revenge for the war crimes Russia committed in Western Ukraine. Remember I mentioned how the Russians murdered Ukrainian priest, nuns, usiness men, and intellectuals.!
They did NOT join e abuse of being NAZIS.

Remember Werner on Braun was a member of the NAZI party in Germany! He was treated as a hero for guiding our space program.
It is the ultimate form of hypocrisy to say a guy who fought the Russians was a bad guy NAZI but von Braun was a hero.
Remember that the Germans signed a contract with the Halych division that they would not fight against the wester e.g. good allies such US, BR, or Franch
but fight the forces of evil being Russian murderers. We’re there some NAZI collaborators in Ukraine as there were in France, Italy, Norway, US, UK, etc so to ignore that but falsely claim that the all who were members of the Halych Division were NAZIS is. hypocritical.
Members of my family both by blood and by marriage and extended family were harmed by NAZI collaborates ( REAL NAZIS) therefore I am not any fan of NAZIS no matter what ethnic group they were from.

Remember that our great allies the Russians perpetrated the Berlin blockade!

 

You mean like Werner von Braun etc?

 

No, he was just a soldier of Waffen-SS division as I know, not a member of this organization. There were even mobilized persons in these Waffen-SS divisions, it's not like some ideological units in most of the cases, most of these divisions were not like Leibshtandarte or Das Reih.

I'm just assuming, that man who made hysteria on 10+ pages, really does not have much understanding, what he is talking about.

 

"I'm sticking to the topic"

AKA.....firehose of disinformation.....

Next?

 

The Waffen SS were a military branch of the Nazi party. By virtue of being a combat member of the Waffen-SS he was required to swear an oath to Hitler and the Nazis. You don't become a member of the Waffen SS without also becoming a Nazi. That's a big part of fascism.

 

Was he charged with any crimes?.....any jail time?

Obviously not....since he's walking freely.

Next case?

 

"I know he was a Nazi"?

I don't think anyone cares if you think you know?

Provide the proof if you know?

 

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Wednesday senior bureaucrats are reviewing the Deschenes Commission report — a 1980s-era independent inquiry that looked at alleged Nazi war criminals in Canada — with an eye to making more of it public.

Struck by former prime minister Brian Mulroney, the Deschenes Commission's final report was released in 1986 and is composed of two parts.

The first, which included recommendations to make it easier to extradite war criminals, was released publicly. The second was marked secret and the names of alleged Nazis in Canada were never released.

Jewish groups, including B'nai Brith and the Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Centre (FSWC), have said the second part should be unredacted and disclosed publicly so that Canadians can learn more about the country's shameful history of admitting an untold number of Nazi collaborators after the Second World War.

Reports suggest as many as 2,000 Ukrainian members of Hitler's Waffen-SS were admitted to Canada after the war — after some British prodding. The commission said the number is likely lower than that.

In an interview with CBC News, Michael Levitt, the president and CEO of the FSWC, said the country needs to know if thousands of war criminals were admitted to Canada.

"The expression 'sunlight is the best disinfectant' could not be more relevant to this situation. If there was ever an issue in Canadian history that requires disinfecting, it's our shameful record of covering up Nazi war criminal immigration to Canada in the 1940s and 50s," he said. "It's long overdue."

The Deschenes report has also concluded that allegations of war crimes committed by this division have "never been substantiated."

That finding conflicts with what the post-war, Allies-led Nuremberg trials concluded about SS units like that one.

For that reason, Jewish groups say they want to see all that the Deschenes commission compiled to better understand its conclusions.

"We have to recognize we have a horrible past with Nazi war criminals. We opened our country to people after the war in a way that made it easier to come if you were a Nazi than if you were a Jew," Housefather said.

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6986364

Oh, look. Now the CBC is a Putin stooge!

 

No, in Estonia and Latvia was forced mobilization in these divisions. Or you think they mobilized only Nazis, when most of them did not know what the hell Waffen-SS is and how it differs from the Wehrmacht? Or you think that people back then had Wikipedia like you?

 

Hmmm....yeah or Kurt Debus.....Walter Dornberger, Werner Strughold?....etc.



I kinda wondered who worked behind the scenes on the Avro Arrow back in the late 50s?

 

Sure....and when/if any report is provided ....it'll be heavily redacted....good luck.


What's the point....99.9% of "supposed" members are probably dead.

The Deschenes commission report should've been aggressively pursued back I the 80s?.....why wasn't it?

 

Even in Estonia and Latvia they had to swear an oath. I'm not sure what point you're making. The agreements and service of countries were different. Ukraine had its own arrangement as did Estonia and Latvia.

 

So as soon as You sewer to the Commander of the German army Hitler, even if it's not voluntary, You automatically become an ideological Nazi? This is how it works?
I do not make any point, I'm just asking You, where did you get, that Hunka is Nazi and I see, that in fact you know very little about the subject.

 

In Ukraine, you had to be Aryan and it was voluntary. I get you're trying to change the subject and try to obfuscate to come to the conclusion that this man might not have been a Nazi. But, that's not what the history shows and that is not the historical standard.

 

Why wasn't it? Who wants to expose a national embarassment, that's why!

"We have to recognize we have a horrible past with Nazi war criminals. We opened our country to people after the war in a way that made it easier to come if you were a Nazi than if you were a Jew,"

 

Let me know when you're caught up on the thread and ready to discuss the basic facts.

 

Even if its voluntarily, it does not mean that he did it because of his Nazi beliefs, almost for sure it was not the reason.
Aryan? You know, that Slavs, and Hunka is Slavic origin, can't be Aryan in Nazi terminology? Man, you just don't know what are you talking about.
You are making here hysteria 10+ pages long and are very surprised, that someone asks you, what's the point after all?

 

Hahahaha.....cmon now Woogsie....a "national embarrassment "?.....are you phucking kidding!!

We had Von Braun, Debus,Dornberger dine at the WH with JFK,LBJ, with dozens of reporters worldwide.....not a peep!.....surely a couple hundred inconsequential former Waffen SS conscripts who were cleared of any charges shouldn't be a big deal.....seems like misplaced philosophy on your part woogsie.....



Let's not forget Hugo Schmeisser, Klaus Fuchs, and numerous others who started USSRs armaments....woogsie.

You got an awfully weak argument here woogster......

 

Wow....great pic.

Probably hundreds like it....and photos photoshopped.

 

Hunka was no conscript. You know better.

 

LOL....in Ukraine you had to be an "Aryan"???

Explain this exactly....cornpops?

What Aryans in Ukraine?.....they're Slavs?


SS considered them "sind untermensch"?

Again ....you crapping porky pies.

 

Hahaha....Hunka was no conscript?

Then Whiskey Tango Foxtrot was he?.....latrine digger,potato peeler, drummer boy?