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I'm spotting Beijing. And we can all look on the world map and see that's an obvious part of China as well a hell of a lot of land around it.

 

Germans had their way in SU til then....Bagration was roughly timed with DDay....like I said.....LL saved the day.

 

The landing in Sicily was in july of 1943. We can all see on this map (from wiki) that the Russians were already massively winning the war.
And by the end of 1944, the Russians already entered Germany, since East Prussia was part of it. That's when the US still was busy in Belgium.

 

Like I said....with the help of LL....seems you conveniently leave this out?

 

I already replied it was nothing compared to the massive output of the Russian war machine. And compared to the UK, Russia got 1/3 of that.
And it wasn't free.

 

Without LL...RuZZia would not have prevailed.

I'll say this many times...and I'm.prepared to.

 

It's just marginal in all of it, since it's just 1/3 of what the US gave to the UK.
While the US, together with Canada and the UK were all beaten by Russia in getting to Berlin and ending the war.
Do note, US together with Canada and UK were not even being threatened with an invasion like the Russians endured. They had it all rather easy.

 

Do note....

Without LL .....Sovs were cooked.

 

Already replied, and you got no real response to how marginal it all was.

FYI. This discussion started with you doubting "Russia was already winning the war in Europe before America set foot on it". And they did.

 

And I'll say again.....without LL....Sovs wouldn't have prevailed.

I'll keep going if you like.

 

read previous post

 

No need....

Read my posts....

Without LL....Sovs were cooked.

 

You're pushing goalposts. The LL is not disputing that Russia won the war.
While the LL Russia got was just 1/3 of what the UK got and so, not that significant.
The LL is also no freebees. It was just a capitalistic trade deal.

You got nothing to rebuke that.

 

Without LL....SU was done.

 

Even if it was a third of what the UK received, that would not make it "not that significant." A third of a **** ton is still a helluva lot.

 

Again. LL is not disputing that Russia won the war. They got in Berlin first ending the war.
You put up Sicily as if that was something that helped Russia. It did not. Russia was already winning the war.

All you got going, by pushing the goalpost, is naming they bought American equipment.
Which was nowhere near what the UK got.

 

The world was done if it wasn't for Russia winning WWII and also making Japan quit.

It was Russia who invaded and got in Berlin making them stop. It was Russia who rampaged through China / Korea and invaded Japan with a full scale fleet that still had to shoot their first shot ready to take it all... making Japan capitulate ONLY to the US. Russia still occupies those parts of Japan as a nice reminder as to what they are able to pull off.

 

Another bias identified. I think we're getting somewhere.

 

The war was already over before D-Day. The Russians had already beat the Nazis back over a 1,000 miles from Stalingrad (Volgograd) towards Berlin.

 

Russia didn't win WW2.....OK...just to be clear.

Without LL....you didn't win anything.


"Russia made Japan quit"??

Now that's funny.....LOL. Drinking the vodka early are we.

Just so you know....Japs were 99% licked already by the time Russkis got to the party.

 

Is that why Koba Gruzin was calling FDR every other day for bullets?

 

Another woefully inaccurate and unpatriotic claim.

 

the USSR repaid the US with 100's of millions. I indeed think we're getting somewhere....
While the original point remains: Russia ended WWII.

 

It should be in every history book that THEY got into Berlin and made Hitler kill himself and subsequently ending the war.

You're defaulting on this by not responding to my reply on this/

The US made Japanese civilian houses in the US to experiment how to firebomb cities to maximize the effect.
With that, the US unleashed a massive genocidal campaign and scorched city after city off the map.
Japan did not quit after the 1st, it did not quit after the 10th. I did not quit at the 20th, the 30th, the 40th, the 50, to eventually... it hit around 60 cities.

That's when Russia finished blitzing through an Japanese army of 1 million people strong, and entered Japan with a full navy who did not even see any action.
That's when Japan called it quits. Because there wasn't an army sizable to stop Russia to taking all of Japan.
It was a good call, since Russia still occupies those parts of Japan today.

 

If I'm "promoting a pro Russian agenda" then you're promoting a pro Nazi agenda. Your logic doesn't work any other way.