EU to US: Help, we can’t cope without you on Ukraine

A blatant lie. EU GDP is $17.82 trillion. The EU can EASILY afford to finance the proxy war against Russia, they simply don't WANT to because they prefer to leech off American taxpayers.

What is mind-boggling is how so-called "conservative" Americans allow these foreign leeches to get away with such laughable excuses.

This is like a guy jumping out of a Ferrari and then asking you for lunch money.

If the war really is as important as they claim, then they should have no problem paying for it themselves. There is no excuse on either side of the Atlantic for this ridiculous blubbering.

 

Eu doesn't have the military infrastructure to support the type of support Ukraine needs right now.

They should have listened to trump and increased their spending. But naww...instead they laughed at him.

 

Stop making excuses for foreign leeches. The EU have more than enough resources at their disposal to support whatever Kiev requires, they simply prefer to leech off Americans instead.

 

You think the EU right now in it's current state can match America's war machine?

They can't. They've let it slip because they believed in globalization. A sharing of trade and culture and peace.

 

Isn't it now so obvious why all those leeches line up to be in NATO? Because in the end, they know we're suckers. They know the US MIC will fund Europe's tab via their lobbyists and kickback schemes to US politicians.

 

And so your solution to this problem is to continue subsidizing the leeches with our money at a time when the American people are suffering through record inflation.

Sounds like you want to put America last.

 

All while Euros continue to enjoy relatively lavish social safety nets at our expense.

 

I wonder. We have three serious contender in the world. If we can neuter a Russia, neuter Iran, China will crawl back under its rock and take NoKo with it.
Letting Ukraine fall emboldens China. BUT if Ukraine falls I will miss the ransom wear and the freest of the scams, So there is that...

 

Bunch of nonsense.

 

I think the solution to this problem is for the EU to finally recognize that the world isn't this rosey place of sunshine and lollipops. That they need to seriously beef up their military complex and re evaluate whom they empower with trade.

They should have listened to Trump and they are currently behind the 8 ball as a result.

 

The solution to the problem is for Americans to cut off all aid to foreign leeches and to worry about our own problems.

 

5 hr 49 min ago
Germany's largest arms manufacturer places major ammo order to replenish stocks in Ukraine

From CNN's Fred Pleitgen in Ukraine and Nadine Schmidt in Berlin

A technician at German armaments company Rheinmetall works on 155mm ammunition that will be delivered to Ukraine at the Rheinmetall factory in Unterluess, Germany, on June 6. Axel Heimken/AFP/Getty Images

Germany's largest arms manufacturer Rheinmetall said it has booked a major order of artillery shells to be produced in a deal with the German government to replenish stocks dented by Russia's invasion of Ukraine, with the fulfillment slated for 2024, according to the defense company.

''Rheinmetall has booked a major order for 155mm artillery ammunition following a second call-off under an existing framework order with the German government,'' Rheinmetall said in a press statement Friday.

The defense company, based in Dusseldorf, Germany, said that the new framework contract for 155mm artillery ammunition would run until 2029 and represents a potential order volume of around $1.35 billion (or about 1.2 billion euros). Delivery of the order to the German government is scheduled to take place in 2024.

"The war in Ukraine has compelled the armed forces of numerous nations to replenish their ammunition stocks. In this context, Rheinmetall has already booked several large orders for artillery ammunition,'' the statement said.
As recently as July 2023, Rheinmetall announced the signing of a new framework agreement for artillery ammunition with Germany's armed forces and the expansion of an existing agreement. The agreements between Germany and Rheinmetall entail the delivery of several hundred thousand shells, fuses and propelling charges, the defense company said in its statement.

Remember: Rheinmetall's CEO Armin Papperger told CNN in an exclusive interview in July that his company would ramp up its annual production of artillery rounds from 100,000 to 600,000 in 2024 — with much of that extra output earmarked for delivery to Ukraine. Papperger said that Rheinmetall could provide 60% of the artillery ammunition Ukraine needed.

The defense company's announcement comes as political upheaval in the US Congress and drained ammunition stocks among NATO countries threaten the flow of military aid to Ukraine.​

Live updates: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-10-06-23/index.html

 

You're always so quick to run your mouth..

6 hr 48 min ago
Smaller countries are committing a greater share of their GDP to support Ukraine compared to the US

From CNN Staff, Rachel Wilson, Lou Robinson and Henrik Pettersson

Many of Ukraine's smaller European allies are dedicating a greater share of their economic power to support Ukraine than the US.

CNN analyzed how international assistance to Ukraine stacks up.

The US has committed the second-largest amount of money to help Ukraine overall – including military, financial and humanitarian assistance – after the European Union, which has sent a total of around $85.1 billion, according to Kiel Institute data. That figure does not include contributions from individual EU member states, which are counted separately.

But unlike some of Ukraine’s smaller allies, Washington’s contributions account for 0.3% of its GDP, data shows.

Norway and the Baltic states bordering Russia — Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia — are committing a greater proportion of their wealth to the war at more than 1% of their GDP.​

... live updates: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-10-06-23/index.html

 

I totally agree with your post except... How are "conservatives" to blame. NATO has lived of the American teat since its founding.

 

Which is a noble thing to aspire to. (But you still need to keep your army).

 

Lithuania? LOL. Who gives a **** about Lithuania? Population is like 5 million with a microscopic GDP. Trump wanted the big players in NATO to actually start giving a **** and start spending their share of the GDP on defense so that they wouldn't be caught flat footed like they are right now. Some 5 years ago.



https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2022/6/pdf/220627-def-exp-2022-en.pdf





(let's all laugh at Orange man! He's sooo funny!)


Should have listened to Trump.

 

Trump should have given more military assistance to Ukraine instead of trying to get Zelensky to lie about Biden for him.

 

Zelensky and Ukraine were not under attack, nor was the world order and standing of Europe. And it's not Trump's responsibility to spend more on defense. Clearly we were doing more than our part.

Trump was trying to get Europe to stop placating Russia and start defending themselves. Nice try to pivot blame, but it's not working. Germany which is one of the world's largest GDP's at the time, had 5 years to start ramping up their war production to 2 percent. They chose not too.

They have nobody to blame but themselves. And you can lump the rest of Europe in that boat with the exception of Greece.

 

They did listen and increased their military expenditures. They are not directing their fair share to the Ukranian conflict.

 

Trump gave Military assistance while Obama limited it to non military assistance. And Trump wanted the truth regarding the Bidens that is now being revealed

 

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You are idiots. You have been doing a long time to push Russia away from you. If you constantly offend your neighbor and throw s**t at his windows, then of course sooner or later he will recognize you as his enemy! And he will look for friends from other neighbors. That's what happened with Russia. She found more adequate neighbors (Chinese). And now it's strange to expect love for the West.

 

NATO expansion isn't the United States encroaching into neighboring states of Russia...it's neighboring states of Russia wanting a defense security pack to insure their sovereignty against Russia.

And Russia just gave them a reminder as to why.

 

Does Russia not want to insure its security? I remind you that after the Baltic republics are accepted into NATO, St. Petersburg is only 100 km away. And if Ukraine were accepted into NATO, Moscow would be only 300 km away. And yet - NATO was created as a response to the Communists. Forgive me if I'm wrong - but the Communists have been overthrown in Russia for 32 years! So what is NATO against now?

 

NATO was created in response to Russian aggression after WWII - not the communists.

 

Looks like I'm the only one here. And I'm the only one fighting for the whole country. And I'm trying to explain to you that modern Russia is not a communist USSR. And I want to add that under the USSR, no one oppressed anyone on a national basis. And now no one oppresses anyone in Russia. I can confirm this at least by the fact that I live in Tatarstan. Both Russians and Tatars live here. But all power belongs to the Tatars.

If in doubt, look who is in the government of Tatarstan. All information is available on the Internet. There are almost only Tatar surnames there.