Trump allegedly discussed US nuclear subs with foreign national after leaving White House: Sources

Because Trump cultists WON'T accept the court's decision UNLESS it exonerates Trump. I can wait for that court's decision - and even if I don't like it, I'll
not go marching to over-throw it. Trump cultists have proven they can't be trusted to do that.

 

I'm with you. I'll accept whatever decision the courts decide for bot Biden and Trump. I'm a big believer in the US court system.

 

Did he do so willfully, recklessly or by neglect/unintentionally? Because at law the degree of criminality reflects intention. Biden may have been negligent forgotten with regards to a small number of documents while moving offices but he also co-operated fully with investigators as soon as the matters were brought to his attention. He did not;

- deliberately arrange for the transport of a truckload of documentation to his private residence upon leaving office;
- deny he possessed them when first asked to return them;
- lie about the amount of material involved and its location;
- refuse to return documents when asked to do so;

Guess who did. The above details are illustrative of a premeditated course of criminal conduct over an extended period of time and on a large scale. Biden's conduct to date does not. Now you tell me. In the event both parties end up going to court over classified documents found in their possession which set of facts do you think any court in the US is going to regard as being being more serious and deserving of punishment, Biden's or that other guy? Go on, I'm sure you can figure it out.

 

Overdue for your morning coffee…?

 

There isn't a damn thing that Trump knows about our nuke boats that our enemies don't already know.

And that goes for anything related to op areas, operational tempo, and technical abilities.

I don't like the orange man anymore than I do a case of diarrhea, but some of you people are off the rails thinking you have something here.

 

Will you accept the court decision for both Biden and trump?
So if trump is convicted you will acknowledge he is a criminal?
And if Biden isn’t charged you will acknowledge he is not a criminal?
Edit - just saw your post saying you WILL accept the outcomes.
OK then.

 

Okay, and that means the Commander in Chief knows basically SFA about his own arsenal. Does that make sense to you?

 

Don't be silly! The system has been weaponised to get Humpty only. We can't have rules for everyone you know! How beastly would that be?

 

You are arguing the America’s enemies know all classified information.
BS.

 

The entire planet knows what we have onboard our boats.

 

Yeah?

You think Trump understands the workings of mechanical & electronics & weaponry onboard a sub?

I got a bridge for sale.

 

You think trump can’t repeat classified information that he has learned?

I got an oceanfront property for sale in Kansas for you.

 

Well, I am part of that entire Planet and I sure don't. I doubt anyone knows apart from what they think they know from what they have Googled.

 

Of course he doesn't, but I'll bet that down there among the gold plated taps and dunnies at Mar-a-Lago he will have some bits of paper containing all sorts of sneaky stuff he ought not have now. But, he was lawfully in possession of it when he was POTUS. Every POTUS knows his arsenal in broad terms. If he doesn't, why bestow the title Commander in Chief on him?

 

So why did Trump release the 5k Taliban.

 

What Trump did is illegal and the notion there are no military secrets especially the submarine is complete BS.

 

Good points, but you overlooked one glaring fact.
Trump isn't in trouble just because he did that with just any classified documents.
There are very different levels of classified documents. Biden and Pence were in *possession* of very low level classification, and wereen't showing off with them.
Trump had very high classification docs that were DoD and nuclear docs that cannot be declassified by the pres alone, and he was showing them off and improperly caring for them, and then tried to lie to NARA and hide them when he was asked to return them.
Any one of us would be in jail for that.

 

Great….. show us the DOJ investigations and indictments into Joe Biden and family for the 170 “suspicious activity reports” and the money laundering shell games played to disperse money to the grandchildren from foreign countries…. and the FACT Joe Biden knowingly participated in a failed coup and insurrection into spying on American citizens and also failed attempted to overthrow our government by attempting to overthrow a duly elected president… ( known for years and all in black white documents).

 

Not exactly top secret information

Ohio-class submarines previously contained 24 launch tubes each, but the number was reduced to 20 to meet limits under New START. Assuming an average of twelve operational submarines with 20 launch tubes each and four warheads per missile, these boats carry roughly 960 warheads.

United States Submarine Capabilities..
https://www.nti.org/analysis/articl...ly contained,boats carry roughly 960 warheads.

Yes heads of state often discuss such matters. A President has FULL authority to do so.

 

Biden had SCIF level documents that he obtained as a SENATOR.

 

I am going to make a request from you.
If you are going to quote me, at least have the respect to quote in it's entirety, as what you cut off was directly related to your comment.
SCIF level can be a lower level. What you omitted was "

"
Do you need further explanation of what that means?
I would implore you to read this: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.go...rder-classified-national-security-information
It should help clear up some things........
If not, you didn't read or need to read it again. Pay particular attention to the "declassification" part.

 

Not necessary when I was replying to your SPECIFIC assertion about Biden.

SCIF level are the highest level and why they can onlynbe viewed in a SCIF room. Biden had NO BUSINESS being in possession of them outside a SCIF location.

 

I did some research, and found that a few of the documents Biden had were classified "SCI", but couldn't find out if they had to be in a SCIF, but that isn't addressing what I had stated, that many of the documents Trump had, and lied about, and concealed were DoD (Defense) and nuclear (forget the acronym), which are handled entirely differently than others, particularly in their declassification process. Did you read the link I provided?
You're trying to say Biden did the same thing Trump did, but that is not accurate.

 

He didn't, it was Vankie....

 

I didnt make the accusation. You have to prove their weren’t, which NOBODY has done and you know that is a fact