Trump allegedly discussed US nuclear subs with foreign national after leaving White House: Sources

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    JFC, can you prove their was ?

    YOU and yours are the ones claiming their was. YOU get to prove your accusation. Which you cannot do, so now your tune changes to “prove their wasn’t”. Its a laughable juxtaposition
     
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    Secured Confidential Information must be viewed in a Secured Confidential Information Facility. And it is questionable whether SENATOR Biden had the clearance to even be in a SCIF to view SCI, only those on the Intelligence Committees and even their is limited. And all SCI must be left IN THE ROOM where it is logged backed into secure locations or burned. How it would even have gotten out of the room let alone in his PERSONAL POSESSION is a matter for an espionage investigation.

    And as President he had ultimate and plenary and unlimited declassification authority. Biden was NOT President when any of the classified documents he had were taken.
     
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    Potentially sensitive info

    Like a submarine is painted black? Submarines have a nuke plant?

    This is all red meat thrown out to the rabid liberal base to keep you all worked up. It seems to have worked with a lot of you.

     
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    That does nothing to change the fact that later, the Taliban were supposed to establish a ceasefire and didn't... ending the "agreement".
     
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    Wow repeating the same post !!!!
     
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    Ignore all you want, what Trump did was illegal. I can't wait to see someone worse than Benedict Arnold pay for his transgressions.
     
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    The only person worse than Benedict Arnold is the current Usurper named Joe Biden. David Duke is more loyal to the United States than Biden.
     
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    Tipping your hand there with the David Duke reference. That aside, I promise to remind all the MAGAs when Trump is sentenced, as I did with his arrests.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    Like the Russians don't know how many missiles and warheads our nuke boats carry and "how close" a Los Angeles class can get to any of theirs.
     
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    What illegal information did he give them.

    You mean

    "14 Ohio-class SSBNs form the sea-based leg of the U.S. strategic deterrent triad. The vessels carry Trident II D5 SLBMs, though since 2017, the Navy has been replacing these with Trident II D5LE, a life-extended version equipped with a new guidance system for improved accuracy. Ohio-class submarines previously contained 24 launch tubes each, but the number was reduced to 20 to meet limits under New START.

    Assuming an average of twelve operational submarines with 20 launch tubes each and four warheads per missile, these boats carry roughly 960 warheads. However, given that normally only eight to ten of the Ohio-class submarines are deployed at one time due to regular minor repairs, the actual number of warheads in the field is closer to 720.10"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio-class_submarine
     
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    Trump disclosed that due to a catastrophic flaw in the design of the subs and persistent maintenance issues, 95% of the total fleet are in dry dock being repaired at any one time.

    Would you have an issue with Trump disclosing that level of information?
     
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    Give a cite where he made such a statement.
     
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    You don't know what he discussed, and you didn't answer the question that you deleted from my post which tells everything about your devotion to Trump.
     
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    Truth is worth repeating
     
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    @truth and justice
    ""Trump disclosed that due to a catastrophic flaw in the design of the subs and persistent maintenance issues, 95% of the total fleet are in dry dock being repaired at any one time.""
    Prove he made such a statement.
     
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    First, prove that's classified.
    Back in the 1980's I was part of a NETT (New Equipment Training Team) which appended a simulation system on Cobra helicopters. It was a very sophisticated "laser tag" type combat simulation system called MILES (Multiple Integrated Laser Engagement System). When the gunner fired a TOW missile, it triggered the firing of a laser which simulated the actual missile. The TOW system consisted of eight components built by Hughes. The Hughes TSGMS (Test Set, Guided Missile System) was used to make sure the TOW system worked. When we hung the MILES on the aircraft, however, the box which controlled the articulation (movement) of the armament wing stores (where the missile was hung on the aircraft), built by the aircraft manufacturer, Bell Helicopter, (SECU... Servo Electronic Control Unit) was found not to work in the bulk of the fleet. This failure caused the missile system to fail even though the test set said it was working. We essentially put almost all of the Cobra fleet (over 1200 aircraft) ... "down"...inoperable. The word spread like wildfire through the Army, industry and everyone involved with Cobra. No one suggested it was classified.
     
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    LOL Were you there when he had his conversation?. Perhaps you could also answer the question that you left out, "Would you have an issue with Trump disclosing that level of information?"
     
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    You don't think that the number of nuclear armed subs operating at any one time would be classified especially if it was released to the public that a huge majority were out of action? The enemy would love to hear this news. They are supposed to be a deterrent against Armageddon.

    Speaking of similar design flaws. I came in late on a mil programme that was just a few months away from being delivered to the MOD for test trials. The equipment was Laser Warning Receivers (LWR) for Navy Lynx helicopters. The equipment worked perfectly in lab conditions. I discovered at the start of outside tests that the sun triggered false alarms when bright enough. I had to do so much overtime trying to find the cause and a redesign which ended up being a single resister being placed on the power feed to one of the chips. It would have been so embarrassing for our company if this problem was discovered in flight trials and a very costly waste of money. And with reference to Top Secret information, the crystal frequency of the LWR was classified Top Secret
     
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    Takes 10 seconds on a google search. LOL.
     

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    That does not give the answer!
     
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    Certainly does, try again! To learn more on the subject, I suggest starting with what is required by NATO members and reporting capabilities.
     
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    Read the question and try again! AArguy even gave an example. The US had "over 1200" aircraft and had practically zero operable. I presume you know "operating at any one time" means?
     
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    YOU said as a statement of fact

    Give me a cite, a link, a confirmed source for it. And you question was a pure hypothetical. Deal with the reality and prove what you said.
     

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