Biden now wants to build a wall.

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  1. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes….. the left claims they can just bring some hacksaws and cut through or carry ladders through the desert…… when the drone overhead, and the stuff you mentioned, would intercept a crowd long before they get there….and apprehended by the reduced man power that can be used elsewhere.
     
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    NONE. That kind of disinformation is the standard for the RW# extremists. No conspiracy theory that they don't accept as fact. Seems that their information sources are lacking.
     
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    No Biden is a hapless buffoon
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well... I don't know all the Bidens, so I wouldn't go as far as you do to claim that none of them are.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Where is the investigation into this?

    Remember.... Biden paid contractors NOT TO BUILD THE WALL out of your tax payer dollars $5 million A DAY.

    Then he sold off that $300 mil of material for $5 mil..... now he will buy more wall, that we used to have, to do this.... how much is this garbage going to cost the tax payer

    https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/0...aid-contractors-5m-a-day-not-to-build-a-wall/
    According to Scott, all that remains of former President Donald Trump’s border wall efforts are “stacks and stacks” of panels, “hundreds of miles of fiber-optic cabling,” and “hundreds of cameras” that are just “sitting there.”

    “There’s no action being taken,” Scott explained. And despite Border Patrol telling the Biden White House in briefings that the border would suffer “unmitigable disaster” if Trump’s policies end, the Democrat administration’s position is simply, “We’re not building more wall.”

    “There’s no conversation. There’s no adult dialogue, if you will. It’s just a black-and-white decision. The administration said we’re not doing it, so we’re not doing it,” Scott continued. “And that money is just trickling away to those contractors for not doing work each day.”

    Rodney Scott Former Border Patrol Chief 2 years ago.
    take 10 minutes of your day and listen to the man that was in the game...





     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    And they still are saying nothing different, nor acting so as to imply that they think differently:
    --The President is compelled to act on those laws, passed by Congress.
    --The funds being used for this border wall, were approved in 2019, to be used by 2023.
    --Up until now, Biden has been trying to get Congress to rescind the funds.
    --Since they have not, he has no other choice.

    See my post, on page two, along with its fully explanative snip, from the Wall Street Journal.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...to-build-a-wall.614024/page-2#post-1074461893


    Note: I address another of your posts, at the bottom of this post.

    And you are as uninformed, as ever.

    See my reply/link, above.


    1) We can provide Homeland Security more funds, for border security; and hire more judges to clear up the vast backlog of amnesty cases.

    2) We can rewrite our outdated, and ill-serving immigration laws.



    More specifically, only Congress can either of those two things.

    3) States, in cooperation with the Federal government, can increase the punishments for hiring undocumented workers, and actively start enforcing such laws.
    The federal role, is in establishing an iron-clad worker identification system (probably using biometrics), to eliminate or greatly reduce the ability to circumvent this verification system.
     
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  7. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no requirement that he spend the funds just because congress approved them.
     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    You are wrong. It is the exact same principle, as when Congress first approved lethal military aid for Ukraine, during Trump's tenure, to be delivered within the year. Do you have no recollection whatsoever, of there being a bit of a brouhaha over Trump having put a hold on that, so there became a risk of the package expiring, without all the funds being used?

    The President's primary job, is to execute the directives (laws) issued from Congress. If Congress passes legislation, requiring the building of a wall, are you contending that a President can just ignore that, without consequence? By that theory, since the President heads all federal law enforcement, why would he need pay attention to any law, whatsoever? Any budget directives, whatsoever? Why couldn't he, on his own, decide not to spend funds approved for, say, Medicare, and decide, instead to use them for the military?

    You clearly have no idea, of that which you speak. Not fulfilling this Congressional directive, would be dereliction of his duty, as President, and would be a legitimately impeachable offense.



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    Does the president have to enforce all laws?

    Under Article II of the Constitution, the President is responsible for the execution and enforcement of the laws created by Congress. Fifteen executive departments — each led by an appointed member of the President's Cabinet — carry out the day-to-day administration of the federal government.
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  9. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL. In 2019, the democrat house of representatives passed a law directing Trump build a wall???? Now that is a gross rewriting of history.

    Trump diverted funds from the military to build the wall.
     
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    My info comes straight from the WALL STREET JOURNAL article, which I included in my post on page two (for which I provided you the link), post #35-- so you can direct your laughter at them; and I will leave it to other readers, to decide whether it is you or The JOURNAL, who has the more credibility. Here is the relevant part of that article, re-posted:

    <Snip>
    A spokeswoman for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, which will oversee the new wall construction, said the
    Biden administration has to move ahead because it is required to spend the remainder of more than a billion dollars Congress had allotted in 2019 to border-wall construction. Congress required the government to spend the money by the 2023 fiscal year, which ended Sept. 30. Up until then, the administration had been calling on Congress to rescind the funds.

    Biden made the same point Thursday, telling reporters the administration had no choice.
    <End Snip>

    https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy...wall-construction-in-policy-reversal-7ff41d2e

     
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  11. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can't access the WSJ without registering.

    However, you are free to explain why a democrat house of representatives, who opposed the wall, ordered Trump to build a wall.
     
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    CAN YOU EFFING READ, AN ARTICLE I REPRODUCED, ESSENTIALLY IN FULL, ON THIS SITE (post #35)? Did you bother to read the snip, in the post which you are answering, here (supposedly)? If you are going to disregard the Wall Street Journal, it seems doubtful that you will give any serious consideration, to any argument that I would make. So your even asking me to put in the time & effort, is a sham.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Essentially in full" is not the full article.

    Find another source, because I can find nothing like what you describe. The only funding I can find for the wall was when Trump diverted funds from the military.
     
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    B.S.-- the part about the source of these funds, and the legal need to use them, is 100% reproduced, in full context. Further, regardless of your criticism of anything at all (having nothing to do with this point about the funding, & about Biden's obligation), having been edited from the full article-- where is ANYTHING AT ALL, from you, to contradict this 85% of a WSJ article?

    85% destroys 0%, every time.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is simple. Provide another source.
     
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    Biden is such an idiot. Trump gave him a secured border and this malevalent mushbrain couldn't destroy it fast enough, and now suddenly he's in a desperate reversal.

    I wonder if this is why?

    TRUMP LEADS BRIBED JOE IN PA BY TWO

    Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Biden 45, Trump 47 Trump +2
     
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    "This Is Unacceptable": Blue States Blast Biden Over Border Blunders As Backlash Intensifies
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    'We're here abandoned. We're on the border, we're asking for help...'

    Bribed Biden screws it up,
    Bribed Biden lies until the truth is undeniable,
    Bribed Biden continues to lie while the situation is lying in open ruins.

    'The latest politician to blast Biden is Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker, who told Biden in a Monday letter that his state is in an "untenable situation," and that the feds need to take "swift action."'
     
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    Frauster Trump built walls, so did Obama, and so is Biden

    no one is against building walls where needed

    Dems offered Trump his money for the great wall of Trump and Trump dropped the ball
     
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    Thank you for indicating just how left you are.
     

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