Hamas has attacked Israel

In your unknowing state you proclaim "ninesense".

So if you don't know something or haven't seen something it's either ninesense or doesn't exist. How can one expect to learn if one refuses to be educated?

It's not my loss, I'm quite happy you not knowing about the Israelite temple built in Sudan 3000 years ago.

 

That's such a bullshit excuse.

They are willfully not giving them an option and are just wanting them to die so as leverage for war crimes against Israel. Because they know that if they take the citizens...Hamas loses its human shield.

Get out a here with your nonsense.

 

Absolutely wrong the facts you state make a speedy victory mandatory There is one other reason as well the longer this takes the more political pressure there will be to stop at half measures yet again and once the dead will have died in vain, and worse it makes it more not less likely that other actors will become involved.

 

You want to believe myth and fantasy That's up to you. The first temple, the traveling show was built on the east side of The Red Sea some where around 3500 years ago, It went north out of Egypt with Moses Aaron and Joshua and into the land of promise some 40 years later. And stayed in continuous service until the reign of Solomon some 500 years later, When it was replaced by a permanent structure which lasted until the Babylonian conquest of Jerusalem.in 597 BC

 

You are full of $hit. I am Libertarian, so I can't claim the titly of a "righty", BUT... I have more in common on fiscal and defense issues as the right tends to, most of the time, and this is one of those times. So, if in your world you are either a righty or you are not, well, then I am, and I want Putin and every member & supporter of Hamas dead. I'd pull the trigger myself if I could. So, I suspect way many of the 'real' "righties" agree with me. You're stuck on stupid, first by thinking that Trump has a hard-on for Pooteen, and secondly, that the right and Republicans in general agree with him.

You're wrong. Not 100%, there are some, for example, that want our involvement in Ukraine to stop, whereas I see it as a great opportunity to destroy most of Russia's military capabilities, including manpower, machinery, and planes, trains, automobiles, and tanks. Then we can break them up, maybe even give some of the far western areas back to China (they used to 'own' it, but it has been a century and a half or so, probably a bit more since I don't feel like looking it up. But name an issue, any issue, and you will find that not all Ds, Rs, Ls, Gs, or even Cs agree or disagree with it 100%. Some, sure, but by no means all.

 

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Our Universities are cheering the folks committing crimes against humanity.

-'Wacky college fads thru the years:

• 1930s: swallowing goldfish
• 1950s: panty raids and stuffing phone booths
• 1970s: streaking
• 2020s: Nuremberg-style pro-Holocaust pep rallies'

https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/st...n^s1_&ref_url=https://instapundit.com/611196/

 

great story bro but I can read wiki myself thanks.
You want to remain ignorant of the presence of an Israelite temple in Meroe, that's on you. Your loss. You'll just have to remain a poor second in any future debate about the history of Africa.

 

Hey, I'm a fan of pronouns, too-- but could you first identify who you're talking about, before you begin identifying them as "they?" So who is willfully not giving who an option? I'm reading that as your saying that Hamas is not allowing their fellow Palestinians to leave. If so, it is you who is giving the bullshit excuse. Hamas does not have the manpower to man their rocket batteries and any anti-aircraft weapons they may have, guard the 150 hostages they took, and also prevent a million people from leaving.

You got any evidence to support your nonsense?

And, BTW, that still doesn't support an argument against pausing a ground invasion, to provide more than 24 hours, for so many people, who obviously do want to get to safety, and don't want to die, for the sake of being used as anti-Israel "propaganda (though it wouldn't be anything other than fact, if they are killed because of Israel's disregard for Palestinian civilians)," to get from the northern part of Gaza, to the southern part. You realize that many would be travelling on foot, right? With, once again, old people, children, and infants, included?

All I see from you is a blind denial, and no actual, logical counter argument, whatsoever. Are you that eager for the death count to start mounting, that you don't care if those who die were in any way responsible for the attack on Israel?

 

And take out the Christian portion of Palestine too huh?

Never seen a righty who was for killing Christians. Times are a changing.

 

Sorry I didn't need wiki. I've studied the history for years sadly **** tons of violence makes for interesting history. And by the way more archeology has been done in the So-called Holy Land than almost anywhere else with the possible exception of Egypt. That archeology agrees with that version almost completely.

 

Why am I not surprised:

 

Got a picture? Got proof it didn't happen say about 600 years later after the Roman destruction of Israel or was something the queen of sheba did to ape solomon's temple?

 

That has got to be one of the (least intelligent) arguments, I've ever heard. Because there would be growing, future "political pressure," to not respond to the actual group, labelled by many as terrorists, who was behind the heinous attack on Israel-- and we all know how much political pressure affects Israel, with the world community calling Gaza an open air prison, and the treatment of the Palestinians, "Apartheid," while Israel has continued not only expanding their settlements in the Occupied Territories, but has even begun annexing some (as in East Jerusalem)-- Israel must ignore the far greater political pressure, against responding to Hamas, without trying to prevent unnecessary civilian slaughter, and provoking a humanitarian crisis? Is that really your half-baked argument? On what could you possibly base, after this unprecedented attack, your idea that there would be "political pressure" against Israel responding to the military group, Hamas? Those in Hamas are now, in the eyes of the world, only dead men walking. The real political pressure, is against Israel's threatening, with its haste, the lives of the far greater number of civilians. Wake up!

 

It was built in around 700bce and rebuilt again after it was destroyed by the disapproving locals.

 

"they" would be all the surrounding muslim nations that are unwilling to take in any refugees. Especially Egypt

Hamas told it's civilians not to leave. And of course they would. They want to maximize civilian deaths to try and pull in Iran or Iraq or Joron into the mix. They want this war to expand.

 

Only sadist, blood thirsty pigs defend or excuse Hamas' actions. You cannot murder/kidnap women & children and then claim to support justice, humanity & freedom.

 

What Hamas may want, is beside the point. What they tell the people of Gaza, is irrelevant, if they cannot force compliance. Since Hamas cannot be out, standing guard, keeping a million residents from fleeing, without exposing themselves to targeting by the IDF-- your arguments are moot. So you are contending that neither the U.N., nor any of the nations of the world, nor any of the aid organizations-- which are greatly experienced with operating in unstable political environments, ruled by warring factions-- who are all calling for the opportunity to go into Gaza & help the people escape the area where Hamas forces are concentrated, have any clue what they are talking about, as well as YOU do?

Well, if we are so luckily blessed, here at PF, to have the world's #1 authority on Gaza & Hamas, in our midst, then please regale us with tales of your extensive time spent, among the Palestinians of Gaza. What stories you must be able to tell!


EDIT: Your bringing up "surrounding Muslim nations," is a straw man. Israel itself, has told the people of the north, to go to southern Gaza. Are you saying that Israel was offering an option for safety, which it knows to be false? The only part of Israel's recommendation which is impossible, is the 24 hour timeframe they'd allowed, for it to be accomplished.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...to-empty-gaza-rejects-corridors-for-civilians

"Egypt has discussed plans with the United States and others to provide humanitarian aid through its border with the Gaza Strip but rejects any move to set up safe corridors for refugees fleeing the enclave, according to Egyptian security sources."

Do you see any muslim state coming forward, offering to shelter refugees? Cause I don't.

 

Doubling down, on a straw man argument-- you must really be desperate. I'll repeat for at least the third time, in case you are still unaware of them, these basic facts:

1) Israel has told Palestinians in northern Gaza, where Hamas is centered, to move to southern Gaza. Of course, other nations do not wish to take them. I have already posted the reasons for this, but I will happily re-explain them to you, when that is the subject of our debate. But acceptance by another country, is not necessary, for Palestinians to follow the directions, given by Israel. What is needed, is: A) more time, and
B) aid with transportation (as well as food, water, and medical attention).


2) The U.N., and various aid organizations, are volunteering to come into Gaza, to help the people achieve the result, which Israel, supposedly, wants: removing the civilians from the battle zone, to some sort of accomodations, in southern Gaza. So, once again, the requirement of another country, as a destination for the refugees, is not called for, despite your continued reliance, on this straw man.


If you are still incapable-- after my reiterated, and far more detailed than should be necessary, explanation here, for your benefit-- of assimilating these facts of the matter, into your argument, then you will be proving yourself unworthy of being taken seriously enough, to merit any response, to just more of your non sequitur, straw man arguments.

 

1) The direction to move south was after the rejection from Egypt. Had Egypt accepted to take the refugees, they would have asked the citizens to evacuate.

2) We don't need other islamic nations to take the citizens, it's just telling that they won't. Low skilled, radicalized population. They will offer support...but you stay over there.

 

That would be about 200 years after solomons temple but well with in the time frame for the wars between Egypt and Nubia and given the locale it is almost certainly not Hebrew but rather Nubian or Egyptian and like wise destroyed by which ever one didn't

 

Great story bro but totally pulled out of your butt hole, lol.

The Israelite temple built in upper Egypt is well attested to by Egyptologists. The papyri found there were written in Aramaic.

I've mentioned this to many white folk and it shocks them so much that they actually rejected their white supremacist lifestyle. It was a defining moment in their lives when they realised that the racism they'd adopted their whole life was pointless.

 

I don't know-- in fact, I highly doubt-- that any place in Egypt, that might have been set aside, would have been any closer, than southern Gaza. So, it is not evident what point you are making, in your re-reiterating, of your straw man argument. If the dog didn't stop to poop, he would've caught the rabbit. IOW, things that did not happen, are irrelevant. Instead of that, Israel has told the residents in the north of Gaza, to relocate to the south. That is the reality, that your struggling arguments, continue refusing to acknowledge. I hope you'll be able to pull this post out of the dumpster fire which, so far, it appears destined to become.

Nope-- so you have no argument, against Israel providing more time for the move which they purport to want, the Gaza residents to undertake.

Here is another point, though, suggesting Israeli insincerity, besides the very brief timeline: even those Gazans who do have motor vehicles, don't have the fuel, for the move. Why? BECAUSE ISRAEL HAD EARLIER CUT OFF THE FLOW OF FUEL, TO GAZA!


Since you've again demonstrated that the only argument you wish (or are able) to put forth, has nothing directly to do with the current reality of the situation, I will pick up your white flag, wherever it had been, a few posts back, that you'd dropped it.