Israel comes under heavy rocket fire from Gaza, suspected terror infiltration

I asked first.

And you're not responding to my accusation of who you're harassing.

 

Do you believe Israel will resort to collective suicide if it's campaign of ethnic cleansing in Gaza is not successful?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

"The Samson Option (Hebrew: ברירת שמשון, b'rerat shimshon) is the name that some military analysts and authors have given to Israel's deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a 'last resort' against a country whose military has invaded and/or destroyed much of Israel.[1]"

 

No, I'm in support of US troops on the ground as a last resort. Our leaders' job is to make sure that doesn't happen. But they are running around saying the same as common citizens, "There must be revenge!"

After an attack like this, nations don't need leaders calling for revenge That emotion is going to swell within the people naturally. Any leader who feels a need to egg that emotion on should be looked at with suspicion!

 

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Thank you. All Jews stand in solidarity with Israel. Liberals and Conservatives and Independents. G-d help Israel.

 

'Why has the Gaza ground invasion been delayed since Friday? - analysis'

'Is Hezbollah waiting to strike until forces are in a Gaza quagmire?'

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'Yet, now we have arrived at late Monday, and if anything, the signs (which could also be psychological warfare) are that the invasion is further away, and not yet imminent.

What changed?

A number of factors seem to have caused a delay, but sources have told The Jerusalem Post that one factor has been a growing concern that Hezbollah is waiting for the moment that most IDF ground forces are committed to Gaza to open a full front with the IDF in the north

In this narrative, the fact that Hezbollah did not engage at the start of the war Saturday morning and has kept its attacks on Israel at a fairly low threshold does not prove that it is deterred but is part of an elaborate fake-out to lure the IDF into a false sense of security, similar to what Hamas pulled off in the south.

As fodder for such suspicions, sources would note that Israeli intelligence and the political echelon must have a new level of humility about their assessments of enemy intentions after missing the boat regarding Hamas in the south.'

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-768684

 

Israel has been a settler colonial society for its entire 75 year history. Zionism began as a project to turn Palestine into a Jewish majority state; there were ten times as many Christians and Muslims living there at that time as Jews, and many Jews were highly suspicious of an European plan to turn their homeland into a Jewish majority state.

In 1967 UNSC Resolution 242 explicitly prohibited Israel from filling the Occupied Territories with Jewish civilians. For the last 56 years Israel has rejected that resolution. Many current residents of Gaza are victims of Israel's ethnic cleansing. They have a legal right of violent resistance; their occupier has no such legal right. The animals are now planning to exterminate/evict a million innocent civilians from Gaza and give their land to Jewish settlers; would you support that?

 

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It would be similar to the Battle of Mariupol. The extremists holed up in the steel plant were captured or eliminated in the end and Hamas extremists would see an end like that without civilians to hide behind. Eventually, civilians will be allowed to return to rebuild the city or region.

 

It is Israel alone that is responsible for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine since 1948. Currently, Israel is the occupying power of Gaza; it cannot simultaneously occupy a territory and declare war on it.

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/five-israeli-talking-points-gaza-debunked/

"As the occupying power of the Gaza Strip, and the Palestinian Territories more broadly, Israel has an obligation and a duty to protect the civilians under its occupation.

"It governs by military and law enforcement authority to maintain order, protect itself and protect the civilian population under its occupation.

"It cannot simultaneously occupy the territory, thus usurping the self-governing powers that would otherwise belong to Palestinians, and declare war upon them.

"These contradictory policies (occupying a land and then declaring war on it) make the Palestinian population doubly vulnerable."

 

Hamas has an obligation not to kill and kidnap innocent civilians.

 

You keep saying it but that doesn't make it so. That right there is why it matters what I think and that I can think.

 

"The fact that one side has the power to completely cut off electricity, food, water, and power is exactly the problem." Hopefully, global public opinion will force Israel to reconsider its plans for colonizing Gaza, but I suspect that will not happen without thousands of IDF/Arab deaths from Lebanon to Gaza over the coming weeks.

 

I just sourced it so.

 

So you need better sources.

 

Hamas would not exist without Israel's ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Hamas has a legal right to defend itself against Israel's occupation and illegal blockade while Israel has no legal justification for its aggression.

 

The PLO was also founded after Jewish terrorists evicted 700,000 Muslims and Christians from their homes, businesses, farms, and bank accounts in 1948.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

 

We seem to disagree on what qualifies as "resistance", and by we, I mean not only you and I, but many in my country seemingly led by people at places like Harvard University.

While I believe in peaceful protest and nonviolent, noncooperation, I acknowledge that sometimes violent resistance against a government is necessary and moral, as my own country's founders decided on a course of violent resistance against a government.

But just because I agree with US colonists' choice to resist doesn't mean I have to agree with every method used by all people throughout the years long resistance. Mass jailbreaks by townsfolk rising up,: I agree. Throwing commercial property in the harbor, I agree. Ambushing Redcoat columns from the woods: I agree. Raiding Loyalists homes and killing women and children: I disagree.

What Hamas did should not be considered resistance . There is no level of oppression that justifies that kind of resistance. Even if I were in a Ww2 concentration camp, and an SS officer's kid gets too close to the wire, I'm not justified in grabbing the kid.

Decent, rational people should not say Hamas are legitimate resistance (but not be censored as Greenwald and others urge). But people who think that killing children is legitimate resistance make me very wary.

 

Meanwhile 900,000 Jews from Muslim lands were evicted or faced Nuremberg-like laws and had their citizenship stripped. Simply due to their religion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world

 

Pentagon puts troops on notice to prepare to deploy to support Israel: reports
Ellen Mitchell
Mon, October 16, 2023 at 3:08 PM CDT

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has ordered a select number of U.S. troops to prepare to deploy in support of Israel, multiple outlets have reported.

About 2,000 such troops were chosen this weekend to be ready to assist with advising and medical support, The Wall Street Journal first reported.

The forces will be pulled from across the U.S. armed services, with the troops currently stationed inside the Middle East and in nearby Europe. But officials have not said which units were chosen or the location they would deploy to, according to the Journal.

... https://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-puts-troops-notice-prepare-200825301.html

 

Absolutely. In fact after what those pieces of human excrement did to those elderly, women and children, I would support turning Gaza into a glass parking lot for Middle East Disney. And if they don’t want a Disney, Israel can settle it however they want.

 

Saber rattling?

The Hill
Top Iranian envoy warns ‘preemptive action’ against Israel expected soon
1 hour ago

Reuters
Iran says 'preemptive action' by resistance front expected in coming hours
3 hours ago

 

Palestinian Hamas = ISIS.
That is the main story that shocked most of the pro Islamo Jihado Palestinian supporters.
How can it be ?? O.M.G ... Palestinians can behead and burn small babies ? No... it cannot happen... it's a lie
By the way, ISIS filthy terrorist murdered 2 Swedens in Brussel ( few miles from my home ) - OHHHH... It cannot be !! he gave them flowers...
ALL Free men and women, especially Muslims and Arabs should condemn ISIS Palestinian Hamas.

 

ISIS terrorist murdered 2 Sweden citizens in Brussel... Europe they are here

 

1929, nineteen years before the alleged eviction:

The 600 years old Jewish quarter in Hebron was hit hardest:

Source: https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/134601

Why were Jews brutally murdered by Arabs 19 years before the alleged Nakba?