Israel comes under heavy rocket fire from Gaza, suspected terror infiltration

and give up their casino business? I think not

 

If I thought they were guilty of war crimes I would denounce them. I do not so I won't.

 

He will not answer your question.
The pro Islamo Jihado ISIS Hamas supporters cannot even condemn the massacre that happened on Oct 7.
They are full of pure evil hatred to everything and even themselves.

 

Most normal people do not support ethnic cleansing

 

Hamas ISIS are Not normal people.

 

If it concerns Israel, the world has different standards.

 

Jewish terror, first against the British and later directed at hundreds of thousands of Christians and Muslims in Palestine, predates all three resistance movements you mentioned. The root cause of all the violence in Palestine over the last 75 years is Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine as recognized by the UN in 1967:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_242

"United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 (S/RES/242) was adopted unanimously by the UN Security Council on November 22, 1967, in the aftermath of the Six-Day War. It was adopted under Chapter VI of the UN Charter.[1] The resolution was sponsored by British ambassador Lord Caradon and was one of five drafts under consideration."

 

The above, even if it was true, doesn't explain your assertion about ending the blockade.

The PLO was founded in 1964, three years before the aftermath of the six day war, by the way. But don't let facts get in the way...

 

None of that matters when you run in and chop off babies heads and leave infants riddled with bullet holes and knifing babies while leaving the knives in their dying bodies.

Those people are animals and deserved to be wiped out.

Cause I can promise you if I had to bury my infant with his head chopped off I would spend the rest of my life hunting those vile animals.

 

I appreciate your willingness to consider facts. These facts reveal that those you are attempting to demonize are the most tolerant in the region. Opposition to Israel is not from a position of genuine concern for humanity or equality.

Israel is the only place in the region where Jews, Christians, Americans, atheists, non-Muslims, and those critical of religion/government, are not sheep being consumed by savage wolves.

 

Of course there are relevant points. The vast majority of issues people use to justify their opposition to Israel are far worse on the side they're defending. One cannot make an honest case that their opposition is from a position of opposing apartheid, discrimination, or support for humanity.

The only truthful justification I have heard is that they just hate Jews.

 

They eventually attacked the Nazis, and that's not up for dispute. The Nazis themselves were fully aware that Britain and France could and would attack them at any moment, at any place around the world, and thus were forced to divert resources to protect their mining, energy, manufacturing, and transport assets all over the world.

In the above situation, in which I know I'm willing, and intend to fight my ally's enemy, I'm willing to supply arms.

Ukraine is not like the above situation. Putin knows that as long as he avoids sinking an American destroyer or other big loss of American life, we aren't going to fight him. We aren't going to attack any of his assets anywhere (except isolated cases of industrial terrorism). Putin can focus everything into Ukraine. Therefore it's not feasible to win; I don't support arming.

However with Israel, there is something I would attack its enemies for. I will not allow Islamic jihadists to gain the upper hand to the point they are in a position to perpetrate another Holocaust on the Jews. That's it. That's what I'm willing to defend against happening. I'm not defending a genocide or expulsion of Palestinians. I'm not defending any other position Israel takes, but at the moment, and for all of my life so far, I'm willing to fight to prevent their annihilation by jihadists.

I don't think the scenario I'm willing to fight for is imminent. I think the Israelis can defend themselves from these terrorists. But I foresee a long 20 years ahead for them in which they must remain mobilized at a high level. Since I'm willing to fight to prevent their enemies' end goal, I'm willing to help bolster their economy for these years that they must remain mobilized. But also, since this is something I'm willing to fight to prevent, it's important to send a message to all outside actors who have a goal to upset the balance in favor of jihadists over Israel, whom Israel may not be able to handle on their own, that the US will handle them. So credit where credit is due, I appreciate Biden's message with the carrier groups. Although I'm still deathly afraid these reckless people want war, and I would feel much more comfortable with a JFK ordering these carriers, or dare I say...Trump.

 

Of course not, Israel has done terrible things.

Do you agree that Hamas has done terrible things?

 

Hamas fired thousands of missiles on Israel last Saturday, many of them got through the iron dome system.


Sad how you need to make believe that Hamas has no military capabilities.

But I guess your narrative depends on that.

 

you really wonder what motivates people who appear to be American citizens supporting Hamas. The only two things I can think of is that they are anti semitic or they hate America=and our allies

 

Huh? You wrote "You want them to settle for nothing over a line in the sand drawn with world agreement."
And I responded to why it is. And your reaction on it doesn't make any sense.

 

I'm completely condemn war crimes and other atrocities and humane actions done by Israel against the Palestinians.

I wonder if @notme will condemn hamas's attacks against civilians in Israel.

Attacks against women and children and elderly people.

 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-rele...r-crime-special-rapporteur-tells-human-rights
Israeli Settlements Amount to a War Crime, Special Rapporteur Tells Human Rights Council

https://thehill.com/policy/internat...ian-infrastructure-in-ukraine-are-war-crimes/
“Russia’s attacks against civilian infrastructure, especially electricity, are war crimes. Cutting off men, women, children of water, electricity and heating with winter coming — these are acts of pure terror. And we have to call it as such,” von der Leyen

It doesn't matter what you think. It matters what people say who got a fast knowledge on the matter.
As proven. Israel commits war crimes. And you have yet to denounce them and end your support for that nation.

 

I always have stated that I support the law.
While lets be rather clear on this Ronstar: You are harassing only the people who confront the pro Israeli side if or if they do not support Hamas ... out of the blue. You are not asking people who are obviously pro Israel, if they condemn the war crimes that Israel is committing. ... like pulling the plug of the elderly and sick in hospitals, deprive women and children and innocent men from eating, drinking sanitized water etc. .. and not to forget the ever ongoing unprovoked expanding of the colonies that they have been doing for 75 years which is the fuel of this spiral of violence.

 

I am still waiting for you to make it clear that you reject hamas's attacks against Israeli civilians, including attacks on women children and elderly people.

The fact that you refuse to make such a statement suggests that you do not condemn such actions.

You cannot claim to have any moral high ground, moral authority, if you are unable to condemn attacks upon civilian women children and elderly people.

One cannot claim to be fighting against Injustice and inhumanity, when they attack innocent civilians or support such attacks.

Armies attack soldiers, terrorists and criminals attack civilians. Its that simple.

 

I already made my statement. You're free to think if Hamas did something according to the law or not and implement my statement.

I also stated you're just here to harass everybody who supports Israel with the barrage of such questions out of the blue.
Your not harassing the other side if to go condemn Israel since they made war crimes.
I'm calling you out on this Ronstar on what you're doing here.

 

I have condemned Israeli crimes.

You refuse to condemn crimes by Hamas.

We all see it. Tell us a lot. I won't ask you again because your view on this issue is clear: Hamas can do no wrong when it comes to killing Israeli Jews.

 

All of these protesters have lost the moral high ground and any semblance of moral authority, when they refuse to condemn crimes against Israeli civilians.

And when they openly justify and support those crimes? They become accessories.

 

How can I possible support Hamas when I support the law? lol
And to be perfectly clear. I am asking you a question. I'll be expecting nothing less than an answer.

You're just here to harass people who support Palestine and are against the Israeli war crimes.
But you're not harassing people who obviously support Israel in the same way.
That tells is a lot. I won't ask you again to go clarify what you're doing here if you flat out not even have the decency to respond.

 

Which specific law are you referring to?

Why can't you just plainly state that you condemn Hamas attacks upon Israeli civilians? Do you find there is shame in defending civilian Jews against murder??

Are you afraid your family and friends will disown you if you condemn attacks on Israeli civilians?