Israeli plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    So far: depriving food from civilians is a war crime.
    Article 54(1) of Additional Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions

    So that Israeli government are just a bunch of terrorists committing war crimes.
    And that they made this plan, and admitted they have this plan, is just more oil on that fire.
     
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    The only war crime is losing.
     
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    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    You deny the atrocities, justify their "attack", defend them - and yo deny you support them on top of all that ?
     
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    Where did I deny that? You're just deflecting away from the topic that your fascist state got it all planned to commit war crimes, so you lot can party on their ruins.
     
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    The war crime is setting Gaza to be an underground military base while civilians roam above, Israel did everything it could to avoid conquering Gaza till it had no other choice, and conquering Gaza with its underground tunnels - at the very least requires the civilians to mov ethe **** away from the fights.
    Anyone that is willing to fight with Hamas is no a civilian
    Anyone that thinks its cool to rape Israeli women is not a civilian
    "Innocent" ppl should do whatever is possible to get away from the fighting, their disturbance and fears are on Hamas
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Using citizens as shields for military operations is a "War Crime", Operations under hospitals and refugee centers. Of course Jew haters will never condemn that.
     
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    And they want me to pay for their crimes.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it's being overly honest and accurate on my part.


    All one needs to do is read what Kelso actually posted to see he was indicting the OP and "other Leftists".


    The purpose of his inclusion is because other Leftists share those sentiments. For example, Democrat Rashida Tlaib. If he wanted to indict the Left in general he could have done so.




    The past several weeks have illustrated that this is hardly a fiction, as you would have us believe. When I turn on the TV I see mobs of LWers, not RWers, in the streets calling for the destruction of the Jewish state, and I'm familiar with who and what those groups are. Furthermore, it's not Young Republicans I see terrorizing Jews on our nation's college campuses, it's their "progressive" counterparts on the Left. When I see presidential candidates cozying up to some of the worst anti-Semites in the country, I see

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    a man who should be a pariah in his party, but remains highly esteemed.

    Those are misrepresentations on your part, not mine. I never stated, argued or suggested that Tapper believes anti-Semitism resides predominantly on the Left nor did I present Tapper as having expressed the sentiment that many Leftists are fine with killing off Jews.

    And now for the ultimate dishonesty, not only did you misrepresent what I said, you deliberately altered the language in my post. The word for that is BULLSHIT, by the way.

    The observation was Kelso's, not Tapper's, and that was clear in my post.
     
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    I see that I did confuse your quote about Kelso, and the one about Tapper, and I apologize for that. But this was accidental, in trying to piece together your quotes from more than one post, and thread. I think your calling this mistake on my part, "the ultimate dishonesty," is rather hyperbolic. You reiterate your argument, here, that anti-Semitism is worse on the Left, than on the Right. And you'd cited Jake Tapper, in corroboration of that opinion, I had thought. Is that not so? When I click on the video you've posted of Tapper, nothing plays. So I could only go by what you write, beneath that non-functional video:

    I doubt that is a reflection of Tapper's position, which is what I'd begun writing, about his not supporting your central tenet. But then I looked at the quote I had leftover, in which you talk about Leftists being fine with the killing of Jews, and didn't realize or remember that you had been talking about Kelso's quote. Nevertheless, you were supporting that position which, again, is not representative of the Left, overall.

    There are certainly some individuals on the Right, who are also fine with that. So I don't know how you justify your making this a partisan question. Anti-Semitism is not owned exclusively by either Party, and there is no reason that anyone should have believed that it was.

    It has certainly been more prominent, that is, noticable, on the Right-- from those at Charlottesville, chanting "The Jews will not replace us," to the Proud Boys, to the America First group, AFPAC, led by Trump dinner guest Nick Fuentes, at who's Political Action Conference, spoke Marjorie Taylor Greene, in person, and Paul Gosar (through video).

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    Republican leaders are facing fresh demands to expel the Georgia congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, after she spoke at a conference of white nationalists and sympathisers with Vladimir Putin.

    The event in Orlando, Florida, on Friday night was organised by the far-right extremist Nick Fuentes, who told attendees: “Now they’re going on about Russia and Vladimir Putin is Hitler – they say that’s not a good thing.”

    He burst into laughter as he added: “I shouldn’t have said that!”

    Fuentes, recently subpoenaed for his involvement in the January 6 insurrection, proudly introduced Taylor Greene at the third annual America First Political Action Conference, or AFPAC.
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    So the difference, as I see it, is that the Right has been
    openly courting those with anti-Semitic views, not "exposing and condemning it," in their midst. Quietly tolerating this, I think I showed in my last post (unless I am thinking about a reply to someone else) is what Republicans have a history of doing-- I mean, if you want to turn it his into a partisan argument (which all signs are, that just like Kelso, you do).

    Yeah, and...? I'm sorry, is your point that the Right doesn't deny its own anti-Semites? How has the Right addressed them-- by calling them "very fine people?" By going to speak at their conferences? Or by including them in their lecture tours (as did Eric & Lara Trump)? Your argument that the Left is more anti-Semitic than the Right, is all wet. Most Progressives are not. Just as is true of more of the progressives here, most are only against the genocidal treatment of any peoples, and so are less likely to make excuses for Israel. I think Bernie Sanders (who is both Jewish, and a progressive) is a much more representational example, than is Tlaib or Omar.

    This first video is Sanders
    from 2 years ago, predicting worsening unrest, because of the conditions in Gaza, and Netanyahu's policies:




    And this report includes some of his more recent comments.

     
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    Your fascist state is depriving millions from food, water and medical aid. It doesn't matter what Hamas does, what your Jewish homeland does still remains a war crime.
    And it is all according to the plan to ethnic cleanse those people out of Gaza. That too is a war crime where it does not matter what Hamas does.
    The idea that you lot avoid killing civilians is just Zionistic propaganda. We can all look at the genocide the Jewish state is committing and compare that to Ukraine or Afghanistan.
     
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    We told them to move South, there is water and food there - and so they do btw...
    That's more than some of them deserve but we'll finish hunting all those who participated in Oct 7th even when the war is over.
     
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    It also is. Doesn't mean the Jewish state commits a hell of a lot of war crimes. The way that fascist nation is depriving millions of people from food, clean water, and medical aid is an utterly disgusting war crime.
     
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    The amount of food and water is absolutely nowhere close of being enough, and that's what your fascist nation does on purpose and so is guilty of a war crime.
    While your fascist state also massively bombs the south as well.


    It won't be over until them fascist Israeli's in the West Bank and East-Jerusalem end their war criminal presence and go back to their own country.
     
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    So much for the "lessons of the Holocaust"...
     
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    We'll bomb where ever Hamas is, we'll see if ppl die of hunger or thirst. they have enough.


    I used to think so too but recently changed my mind, we need to become a bit more like Arabs and then we'll have much longer peace periods.
     
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    Lessons of what ?
     
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    Your "We told them to move South, there is water and food there - and so they do btw..." still is ridiculous.
    I sourced that the amount of water and food is totally not sufficient, while you admit moving south is still a place where your fascists state slaughters civilians.
    And so it all still fits that your fascist state plans to ethnic cleanse all of Gaza. A plan they admitted of having. You voted for these people to commit war crimes? Well well well....

    Israel never stopped their endless ethnic cleansing of Palestine to enlarge their war criminal colonization of it.
    You voted for these people to commit war crimes? Well well well....
     
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    And I said we'll see if anyone dies out of thirst or hunger as you suggest ?
    Non of what you wrote is proof for cleansing Gaza into Egypt, if that's what you mean

    Actually I rebelled against Bibi's Gov, as I said we were on break of civil war and you should know it if you follow Hamas. they said it was a crucial input to their attack.

    They said they will enlarge settlements in the WB but they didn't, what they did was give protection to some Jewish terrorists that burned Huwara and murderered two Palestinians. I condemn it and would have no claims against them being killed.
    But....Oct 7th proved to me that in front of such ideology no agreement could ever worked
     
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    You claimed there was enough water and food, and I proved there isn't by a longshot, and so your fascist nation is committing war crimes.
    You voted on that? Well well well.

    They got a plan, and everything your fascist state is doing, is still according to that plan.

    As if Bibi is the only one in that government. Your country even got some nazi promoting the genocidal idea to nuke Gaza and massacre them all, and he's not betting fired over it.


    The Jewish state keeps on doing this, and every year they blast the news by how many 1000 more get to be part of that war crime by colonizing some more in Palestine. You're free to post a chart where the amount of colonizers in the West Bank is stalling.
     
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    Enough water and food for what ? they will survive and that's all Israel should offer, I wouldn't've done that either till they return our children.
    I didn't vote for anyone in this Gov, my party lost...
    You have no idea what the plan is, I wont bother asking you for evidence of such plan.
     
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    There hardly isn't any party in government that is not part of these war crimes.
    And I sourced the amount they get is 5% of what is needed. And so it's flat out clearly a war crime to deprive that many people.... on purpose!


    Evidence? Read the OP, and your fascist state have acknowledged the plan exists, and so far them fascists are doing it all according to the plan.
     
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    They left Israel on their own accord. Palestinians have always been able to live in Israel. About 1/4 of the Israeli population is muslim. The purpose is to get rid of Hamas. You know that.
     
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    The "plan" to move them South ?
    5% means 95% will die of hunger and thirst ?
     
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    So you seem to be one who ascribes to the "peace at all costs" theory. Is that true?
     
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    Read the OP

    It means depriving people from water and food... and subsequently it is a war crime. That's where the bar is at.
    And you lot voted on these fascists.
     

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