Israeli plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza

You're just making personal attacks because you can not defend the plan of Israel to ethnically cleanse Gaza, which is a war crime.

 

My point is proven. Israel is responding to attacks from Hamas originating in Gaza. Hamas is responsible.

 

It’s hardly a deflection and this document never became active policy so it’s hard to say this was nothing more than a suggestion

 

And the money supporting the American Jews in Jerusalem is also allegedly coming from US sources. There is ample evidence a majority of Israeli Jews and their US benefactors will never accept a state that doesn't include the West Bank and Gaza under complete Jewish control.

 

You're responding to my point where I proved Israel may only react according to international law and that is attacking within proportion and in regard of human live.
The Jewish state simply is war criminal by deliberately depriving millions of civilians from food, clear water and medical aid. And the Jewish state is solely responsible for it.
There simply is no excuse possible to justify this war crime.

 

Is it?
According to the plan Israel did lobby around to make Egypt comply with the idea that millions of Arabs get deported over the border.
According to the plan, Israel did scare the civilians to go to the south
According to the plan, Israel did start the invasion in the north

At no point are we seeing that Israel is doing it differently than that plan.
So there is that.

 

You do have a point and I won’t deny you that. But it’s better than forcing civilians to stay in the target zones. Once they advocate for other countries that aren’t so close to house them I would be on your side of the debate.

 

Indeed. So far, there doesn't seem to be any other plan, while this one is being followed.
And be my guessed in sourcing a different plan.

If Israel wants them to be out of their harms way, than they can go to Israel.

That it isn't ethnic cleansing when the Jewish state deports Arabs into Egypt, but it's only so when they get deported further than that, is bending a war crime where it can not be bend. You're just inventing an excuse to how you still can support a fascist nation that commits war crimes.

 

Palestinians have had several chances since 1947 to have an independant state along side Israel. They have rejected it every time because there would mean an independant Jewish state as well. As they say, "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free."

There is no room for jews. Not in the middle east, not anywhere in the world.

 

The Arabs have put up a plan according to international law multiple times, top of my head, as late as 2019, who Israel kept on rejecting. The Jewish state keeps on rejecting it, while they annually proudly blast how much bigger their war criminal Jew only colonies are going to be in East-Jerusalem and in the West Bank. They turned the entire 2 state solution and talks into a total joke for the sake to keep on going with their colonies. And now they got a plan to ethnic cleanse all of Gaza.

So the motto of the Jewish state looks like it's "From the river to the sea, Israel will be free." ... for quiet some time.
There is no room for a Palestine in the eyes of Jewish Israel and it's supporters.

 

Muslims were trying to kill off all Jews even before Israels was a thing. During WWII the Mufti of Jerusalem was encouraging Hitler in his Jewish genocide and wanted help doing the same thing in the Middle East.

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I thought about it for a while, certainly in first two weeks, but here's the thing, even if we manage to kick all 2 Million of them into Egypt, sacrificing the peace with Egypt and maybe with the rest of the world..., all that we'll do is grow Hamas from 2 Million to 100 Million as they will take over Egypt politically.
No. its much better we keep them here, close to us.

 

You've been told the explanation besides racism. The oppressed Palestinians have tied themselves to foreign states that have been conducting continuous war on Israel. States that Israel cannot ignore or concede to. They need to untie themselves so that their plight is the only consideration in Israeli dealings with them.

Mandela wasn't funded and armed by a half dozen nation-states which had an openly stated desire to annihilate all in South Africa not associated with his movement. And if he did he would have completely abandoned the moral high ground.

 

Nothing like a pro-Israeli to express it's support for a genocide. How does this not sound like Hamas?

 

Not seeing any kind of argument saying where I got it wrong. Hence my post stands.

 

I never said the plan is a good one. Hamas was born because of the war crimes the Jews were committing against them. Hamas HQ is in -top of my head- Syria and Qatar. It's definitely not in Gaza. The only thing Israel will accomplish if they ethnically cleanse 2.3 million people is, is giving 2.3 million people a reason to hate all of Israel and everybody in it. Enter Hamas to recruit them. And it'll be far easier to for Hamas to arm people in the Sinai and than launch new attacks into Israel. And Jewish State will probably react by going genocidal against Egypt. Hence Egypt put their tanks at the border of Gaza, to make sure nobody is going to cross over. So Egypt is well aware of the Israeli plan to ethnically cleanse 2.3 million Arabs.

What you lot do not seem to understand that the violence / massacres / oppression and poverty you inflict on all of the Palestinians never lead to peace. The Jewish state is a colonial power and that's where the problem is at. It's on you.

 

Israel tied themselves to ex-colonial powers and an ex-apartheid state to help Israel to conduct continuous unprovoked war crimes.
Israel itself is a colonial power who applies apartheid in the WB.
To have colonies is a warcrime.

Them colonies are a way to fundamentally violently oppress the Arabs into severe poverty with no end in sight for being Arabs while thieve their land. What the Jewish state does is unprovoked, but with that... they most certainly are provoking. It's on them, their Israeli Jews and their cheer leaders. And now they plan to ethnic cleanse millions to enlarge their Jewish state some more.

 

Well, as long as you lot think like that ofc we'll use violence....
You have no idea what the plan is, you are speculating and that's fine

 

So far, every year, the Jewish state blasts that they are going to make new, and enlarge their existing colonies.
Those are unprovoked war crimes. Them Israeli Jews have been making them for +50 straight.
So far nothing shows that they are going to back down from these war crimes.

And now they made a plan to ethnic cleanse all of Gaza. They pitched it all over the place.
Even here on this forum people opted the idea that them Arabs just should go to Egypt, parroting the Israeli government.

And here you are taking the side of Israel.

 

Actually we were on a break of civil war, for someone that spends so much time over this you should know better, probably your hate blinds you.
We know very well of the 2 murders fanatic settlers did in the WB, that among others divided our society. not only I and many many others were against it - we were even willing to part away from this government. but then Oct 7th came.
I am Israeli - to the bone, I served in the army 96-99 in south Lebanon, I would fight right now too but too old to be recruited....
There is no plan to drive Gazans to Egypt, more likely there is one between A Sisi and Bibi against Hamas.

 

Nothing like a pro Hamas supporting Genocide against Israel. Isn't "river to the sea" your code word? Didn't Oct. 7th perfectly describe the desires for genocide against Jews? I didn't see military operations attacked. They just killed a lot of civilian women children and babies. Didn't see these mass pro PLO/Marxist demonstrations after Oct.7th. Deny they're Marxist? Well look where the funding comes from to put these demonstrations together! The same ones that brought us Black Lives Matter only now they're promoting Jewish Lives Don't Matter. It's all about declaring victimization whether true or not. They gather a coalition of supposed victims and that is how they overthrow governments! That is how they turn their backs on the massacre of October 7th and Ignore the kidnapped hostages.

 

At no point have I expressed any kind of support for Hamas.
You're just making it up since I got you supporting a genocide.
I made a comment in my previous post about it, and you're not even denying it.

 

They are promoting that Idea for their own safety. That does not at all mean to say they can't return after Hamas is destroyed. You're making things up. Did citizens of Gaza warn Israel to flea before they cut them down?? Great effort has been made to get Palestinians to leave. The duly elected and supported Hamas has used their money to build command centers under hospitals. Palestinians are taught to kill Jews as a part of their education system. Jews voluntarily removed settlements from Gaza and the West Bank. In return they get indiscriminate rocket fire. If no one counters your bull&*(&, brainwashed youth will accept it as truth. I know that is how you were indoctrinated.

 

Sounds like you're a bit upset and think that you got some valid excuse to commit war crimes.
I'm sure Hamas had their excuses for what they did as well.

 

OK....then we'll just see how this turns out!