MSNBC medical contributor tells Americans to start wearing masks again after uptick in COVID hospita

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  1. LangleyMan

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    Occasionally, you access reliable sources, but about largely irrelevant matters. Other times, you cite crackpots. Overall, as I suggested, I think you start with a conclusion and look for evidence you're right.

    Your anti-mask views are ones I largely share and I've pointed out there are respirators that provide effective protection for wearers. No matter. You continue talking about surgical masks.
     
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    Tell me, what are the types of masks the majority of the world's population wears and can afford if not, even access?
    As for the rest of your post, you will only accept anything that is in line with your own paradigm, anything outside your scope of understanding bewilders you, is that why my information is from crackpots because they point out obvious truths and what you consider irrelevant because of the latter?

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    No PPE is 100%. So what? A respirator tested for medical use...

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    ... that cuts out 99.97% of virus particles is worth considering by vulnerable people. Wearing it in situations where virus is more likely to be around could save their life--grocery stores, drug stores, Costco, malls, public transit, etc.

    It's a solution for society that addresses a need some people have for protection and relieves pressure to have everyone mask up, many against their wishes.

    I consider it irresponsible for anti-mask types (like you?) to attack using of quality PPE in a crusade against paper masks.
     
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    So, to understand your weird-assed logic, what is it that you consider to be effective protection, for the record? For me, anything that is <100% is NOT effective. Because .03% of virus particles evade the protection the so-called mask provides.
     
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    Again point proven. QED.
     
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    I'm talking about what we can do here in the United States. We can definitely afford to supply anyone in this country who wants quality PPE if government subsidizes and organizes production.
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    From the same post of yours, you provide conflicting points in your own argument
    So how can your PPE crusade be the be-all and end-all to your dilemma, when you have stated, "No PPE is 100%"? So what is the point of wearing them, so you can dodge 99.97% of virus particles? As I've stated previously, what about the other .03%, that is the vector for infection, so between the surgical masks that everyone wears and the more elaborate ones you spruik, which is better? None, they provide no protection other than a false sense of security and the 17 points presented in an earlier post.
     
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    PPE doesn't have to be perfect to provide effective protection against infection.

    Why do think these folks wear it?

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    Whether you're talking about the US, or me globally, don't detract from the fact. What are the masks commonly worn by people in the US? And here we go with government subsidies. If a product is good, it doesn't and shouldn't need funding from the government to get people to wear or buy a particular product, it will sell itself because it's a good product. Society didn't go from horse and buggy to an internal combustion engined car because of government subsidies, it happened because the car was a better product.
    So I'm correct on this one? Because of your response just proved that point. abgg2q.jpg.gif :blahblah::blahblah: auiqs.jpg.gif
     
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    auiqs.jpg.gif Because they were told to wear them for the photo shoot! For people like you to be able to post their pics for forums and threads by the likes of you! That's why they wear them. I had been to my local hospital a couple of times in the past 6 months, I saw no medical staff wearing their PPE Halloween mask AT ALL.
     
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    Does this apply to wearing a respirator while traveling on transit or going to the store?
    This from 2020 ... we know now this isn't accurate.

    It was out-of-date when it was published.
    You should learn how do links.
     
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    The answer is irrelevant to my point.
    Why can't you address what I wrote instead of lecturing an economist (me) about economics?
    Who builds roads?
    See if you can address what I wrote.
     
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    You need to learn to read links. All are from this thread. Have you read anything from the last quoted post of mine? "THE HEALTH RISKS OF PROLONGED FACE-MASKS WEARING & RESPIRATORS"
     
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    It often stops people who wear them from catching covid.
     
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    I read you link from 2020 that I commented on already.
     
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    Your claims have been sufficiently refuted. See ya.
     
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    Yes, it is. There's no difference apart from the numbers in a geographical sense. Global vs National.
    Because it has relevance to my argument, do you fail to see that, oh, yes, you do?
    Now this is an irrelevant statement. It's the manufacturers of the PPE paraphernalia. auiqs.jpg.gif
    All you responded with was, :blahblah::blahblah:. How do you respond to that, other than how I already have?
     
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    You commented hey, did you read?
     
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    I'll help you out, AGAIN, for this one. :above::above::above::above::above::above::above:
     
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    The "disease" was present before Old Joe's visit.

    Try something that isn't so absurd.
     
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    Why wasn't it reported on prior? Was it you or your roommate Joe who's being absurd? Look at the date of the article we refer to, and the one I just posted, HMMM.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...i-jinping-of-the-peoples-republic-of-china-2/

    Interesting dates of the visit to the announcement of the breakout hey? Also, if it has been going on before the visit as you claim, why did he risk it doing the visit? You'll have to get up much earlier to catch me off guard with details such as that.
     
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    Reported on by whom to whom?
    Your comment in this message was absurd:

    "Hmm, were the children ever jabbed, or is Biden just the harbinger of disease?"​

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-covid-hospita.612421/page-17#post-1074532697
    Good grief. This from Fortune:

    "Earlier this month Chinese officials attributed the rise in mysterious pneumonia cases to the circulation of viruses like flu and RSV, as well as the lifting of COVID-19 restrictions."​

    https://fortune.com/well/2023/11/22/china-pneumonia-respiratory-illness-clusters-world-health-organization-requests-information/

    The visit was here, not there. Besides, the illness is showing up in children, not adults.

    Better put on your mask. That way, you'll have a grievance you can exploit.
     

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