What is hate speech?

This link shows your numbers are false, although it is presented differently than what you attempted to do.

 

It's a tough deal. I'm looking forward to a time when we've dropped all the us/them and we all mutually guarantee each other basic civil rights.

 

Hate speech is also used to discredit the opposition.

 

I am strongly on the side of free speech. Hate speech is something they invented to subdue free speech. Incitement to violence or harassment one is not able to walk away from I can agree with banning, but mere speech that is hateful, absolutely not. That should be allowed, exposed and responded to with free speech.

If somebody wants to show they are a hateful bigoted ass, let them, and regard them accordingly.

 

Hate speech is speech intentionally meant to offend someone. I try to not use hate speech but it's use should never be punishable by law.

 

I'm not here to be the arbiter of hate speech labels, I can assure you that, friend. I would say both things can be true and ARE true, that in a neutral setting, as the studies have shown, there is no racial difference in IQ, among any race, and that looking at whole numbers for the entire nation, you can see disparities. But, the black students in DC are not being out performed by their white counterparts. Only when you look at whole numbers, do black students show lower scores, and we all know they are more likely to live in poor communities. Circumstances matter, and race doesn't. These are just facts that can't be denied. Poverty is the most reliable predictor of low IQ, not race.

 

Our education system is fill with hateful speech and agendas.

Revamp education to stop the cultural rot: For far too long we have allowed the system to fail and anti-Americanism, anti-Semitism, and disdain for Western culture to flourish.

'Standards have slipped, missions have been ignored, and it’s time for a reboot.'



K-12 conditions students to hate Jews in college

 

Except it probably does not violate 'rights', unless you are letting anybody and their cousin define what a 'right' is. Its very good university and public policy to discourage 'shout downs', and I adamantly oppose protest tactics designed to keep public speakers from communicating with their invited audience. Its not about the right to speak, so much as students being exposed and listening to a broad scope of often controversial/ unpopular ideas. That's key to a successful college experience. I am more interested in students being permitted to hear unpopular and controverisal ideas, than I am a validation of their preexisting views, but many students being like the rest of us right here, really like having their views expressed persuasively back to them.

 

Sure it does.

Shout-downs prevent communication. Why do you support preventing communication?

 

Wow that was fast. From the quoted post ".... Its very good university and public policy to discourage 'shout downs', and I adamantly oppose protest tactics designed to keep public speakers from communicating with their invited audience..."

So why don't you like to read posts before you characterize them?

 

Today, hate speech means you can’t call the kettle black?

 

I was referring to this:

 

The following chard disproves your comment.

 

Here is a recent example of something that might be considered hate speech:

 

I agree. This hysterical outburst demonstrates how unbalanced Trump is and how important it is that he not be re elected. Unfortunately, public opinion surveys indicate that he will win the next election. This is why it is necessary for the criminal justice system to put Trump into prison for the rest of his life, strip him of his wealth, and deprive him of the ability to communicate with the poorly educated fools he pretends to love, and who respond positively to dangerous diatribes like this.

 

The chart does not make sense, logically. I believe this is a meme but when it comes to SAT scores, the College Board has a different viewpoint from their perspective. They don't use SAT Averages based on income, they use percentages. There is a mean score between all races, ethnicities, genders here. However, a mean score means the most in a given subset. It does not prove intelligence between the groups, but may show something else. Some say there is inequality between Blacks and whites. Black mean score was 926 and whites was 1098. But with Asians, it was 1229. So is there a racial gap between whites and Asians? Or how about Hispanics, which their mean score is 964. In logic, there is a fallacy of statistics where if you use mean scores to show the intelligence of the entire group, then a logical fallacy exists because we know that Ben Carson and Thomas did not score on SATs within the mean score, did they. And I don't think they are outliers. But in reality, the College Board uses percentages to show SAT scores based on the score range, as described in the second link.

https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=171
https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/sat-percentile-ranks-gender-race-ethnicity.pdf

 

Of course there is a racial gap between whites and East Asians.

 

To answer a question like that, I consult my almighty personal oracle, dispenser of infinite wisdom, ChatGPT-4

Which says:

Dear Conservative Democrat,

Hate speech is a complex and sensitive subject, often defined as speech that attacks, threatens, or insults a person or group based on attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin, national origin, sex, disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity. The key characteristics of hate speech include:

1. Targeting Specific Groups: It is directed against people belonging to a specific social or demographic group.
2. Intent to Harm: Hate speech intends to degrade, intimidate, or incite violence or prejudicial action against these groups.
3. Inflammatory Nature: It often involves inflammatory, derogatory, or dehumanizing language, which can lead to real-world violence and discrimination.

It's important to note that the definition and legal treatment of hate speech vary significantly around the world, reflecting different cultural and legal contexts. In some countries, hate speech is a criminal offense, while in others, it is considered protected speech under the freedom of expression. The balance between protecting freedom of expression and preventing harm often leads to vigorous debate and differing policies regarding the regulation of hate speech.

One thing I don't like about ChatGPT is that it's last paragraph, the summary paragraph, is often too wishy washy for me, and I will usually reword it so that the answer takes a stand, instead of saying 'it's debatable', which, apparently, it's programmed to say so that no one accuses it of bias (even though it maybe 'empirically true'). I'd say a lawyer told the programmers to put that in.

Now, if I had to answer your question, I'd say it's like that famous judge who said, "Pornography is difficult to define, but I know it when I see it". For me, that works for hate speech. and no doubt there are probably grey areas, there's bound to be that. But Chat's answer is as good as any. If you want to assert that it's possible for hate speech to be empirically true, I'm not seeing that, but if you have an example (put it in italics or quotes or better yet, both, to make sure no one will accuse you of saying it) I'd like to see it, because I'm skeptical of that one. Trump's rhetoric about Mexico, "they're bringing drugs, and some, I suppose, are good people" is derogatory, but I don't think it rises to hate speech,. there's a fine line between the two.

 

What studies are those? Got a link?

 

Oh so you read the whole post, including those lines, and you intended to misrepresent my post to start a faux fight. You wanted my attention. What do you need from me,Zorro that you can't get at home? what else do you want to talk about to keep yourself engaged with me?

 

The first part threw me off and I misread the rest. Thank you for the correction.

 

So you are saying whites are inferior to East Asians?

 

I do not make categorical statements like that. I think and write in terms of tendencies and averages. East Asians tend to have more of the characteristics a society and civilization needs to have to prosper than white Gentiles. These are intelligence, obedience to the law, and monogamy.

Nevertheless there are some Negroes that are more intelligent, law abiding, and monogamous than some East Asians.

 

Well, discuss it with the moderators then
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?help/terms

 

Wow! That is odious!

I am an Aussies and we, like Canada are becoming an increasingly “mixed” society - a multicultural society. The essence is to appreciate ALL people for who and what they are. Infinite variety = infinite opportunity to interact, have fun and enjoy life