Is Trump a Fascist?

But it is your business if someone else is trans, bruh? It is your business if someone else has opinions about other countries that you don't like, bruh? It is your business if people don't like fascism, bruh? It is your business if someone else is in an interracial relationship, bruh? By the way, it took less than two seconds to find examples of you talking about other countries on this forum. Your virtue mountain is inverse -- it's the ****ing Grand Canyon.

 

I dont give a **** who's trans. If that's your honest take away...you really missed the mark.

 

So you want to leave trans people alone (unlike the authoritarian idiot in your avatar), you want to leave people in interracial relationships alone, and from now on you will never criticize another country for anything that they do, even if one of our parties are praising them and inviting their leaders to conference? Sorry, I call bull ****.

 

Nobody gives a **** about trans people. Just stay in your lane and stop pushing your BS narratives on everyone else.

 

The guy in your avatar does. As do many on the right. It's one of their main talking points now, besides lying about Trump winning the previous election.

 

Your chief idiot and his administration has made a mess out of every aspect of America and by extension, the world.

Good jeb

 

White flag accepted.

 

Its a little bit ridiculous to pretend to be blind for the fact that the left came up with this LGBTQ+ madness and to try to confuse the reaction to this madness with the obsession.

As long as trans rights activists cancel or even intimidate biologists for simply teaching biology, as long as they feel entitled to sexualize children, as long as they feel entitled to spread hate against anyone who doesnt share their wicked ideology, its good that politicians take positions against these activists.

Although vintage today non-queer feminists are guilty for their own misery today, called Nazis just like the evil white men when they insist on biology and that they dont wanna share prison cells with men who have been in jail for sex crimes or that some at least like to have the option for a female only sauna without any swinging dick around, they have once a point there.

 

My wife is a biologist. You have no idea what you are talking about.

 

lol...what color is the sky in your world?

I'm more concerned with broader concerns. Trans aint up there. But trans is a destructive, contagious social direction we need not go down. So if DeSantis or Trump wants to stifle the trans ****? So? It's a damn mental disorder. It shouldn't be romanticized.

Trump has better foreign policies, economic, border and social policies. Biden? biden's good at eat ice cream. America and the world was much better under Trump.

 

How quick you reverse directions

 

It's so easy for anyone "rag on" Fascism, especially while not even knowing exactly that at its core, the Fascist principle is -- UNITY!

Any ideology when carried to extremes is susceptible to being oppressive and tyrannical -- no one denies that. But in this country, at this time, with these challenges we face, never forget the guiding principle of The Council of Elrond in "The Fellowship of the Ring":

. And Sauron was counting on it!

 

I prefer calling them "Marxists".....that would be far more accurate. When schools begin to take preference to parents, wel, that is Marxism at it's roots!

 

https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/sta...donald-trump-nazis_n_6551cc32e4b0373d70b2ca1e

 

Hey, what's fascist about all this?


The media is the enemy of the people and “fake news media” needs destroyed.

Political adversaries are “vermin” who needed to be “rooted out.”

A campaign spokesman, responded to criticism of the “vermin” remarks by saying it came from reactive liberals whose “sad, miserable existence will be crushed when President Trump returns to the White House.

“The threat from outside forces,” Mr. Trump said, “is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within.”

He has insinuated that the nation’s top military general should be executed and called for the “termination” of parts of the Constitution. If he wins back the White House, he has said, he would have “no choice” but to imprison political opponents.

The judicial system is “politically biased” and “out of control.”

Immigrants are “polluting the blood of our country”.

 

Fascism is generally understood as an authoritarian far-right system of government in which hypernationalism is a central component. Check.
It also features a cult of personality around a strongman leader. Check.
The justification of violence or retribution against opponents. Check.
And the repeated denigration of the rule of law. Check,”
Past fascist leaders appeal to a sense of victimhood to justify their actions. Check.
We’re entitled because we’ve been robbed, we’ve been victimized, we’ve been cheated and robbed. Check.

Stolen from here

 

I agree, and so did George Orwell. Any nuanced original meaning is lost. Now it just means the other guys, to most humans.

I'll post his essay on it, because I think it's interesting, even if a bit dated.

Of all the unanswered questions of our time, perhaps the most important is: ‘What is Fascism?’

One of the social survey organizations in America recently asked this question of a hundred different people, and got answers ranging from ‘pure democracy’ to ‘pure diabolism’. In this country if you ask the average thinking person to define Fascism, he usually answers by pointing to the German and Italian régimes. But this is very unsatisfactory, because even the major Fascist states differ from one another a good deal in structure and ideology.

It is not easy, for instance, to fit Germany and Japan into the same framework, and it is even harder with some of the small states which are describable as Fascist. It is usually assumed, for instance, that Fascism is inherently warlike, that it thrives in an atmosphere of war hysteria and can only solve its economic problems by means of war preparation or foreign conquests. But clearly this is not true of, say, Portugal or the various South American dictatorships. Or again, antisemitism is supposed to be one of the distinguishing marks of Fascism; but some Fascist movements are not antisemitic. Learned controversies, reverberating for years on end in American magazines, have not even been able to determine whether or not Fascism is a form of capitalism. But still, when we apply the term ‘Fascism’ to Germany or Japan or Mussolini's Italy, we know broadly what we mean. It is in internal politics that this word has lost the last vestige of meaning. For if you examine the press you will find that there is almost no set of people — certainly no political party or organized body of any kind — which has not been denounced as Fascist during the past ten years. Here I am not speaking of the verbal use of the term ‘Fascist’. I am speaking of what I have seen in print. I have seen the words ‘Fascist in sympathy’, or ‘of Fascist tendency’, or just plain ‘Fascist’, applied in all seriousness to the following bodies of people:

Conservatives: All Conservatives, appeasers or anti-appeasers, are held to be subjectively pro-Fascist. British rule in India and the Colonies is held to be indistinguishable from Nazism. Organizations of what one might call a patriotic and traditional type are labelled crypto-Fascist or ‘Fascist-minded’. Examples are the Boy Scouts, the Metropolitan Police, M.I.5, the British Legion. Key phrase: ‘The public schools are breeding-grounds of Fascism’.

Socialists: Defenders of old-style capitalism (example, Sir Ernest Benn) maintain that Socialism and Fascism are the same thing. Some Catholic journalists maintain that Socialists have been the principal collaborators in the Nazi-occupied countries. The same accusation is made from a different angle by the Communist party during its ultra-Left phases. In the period 1930-35 the Daily Worker habitually referred to the Labour Party as the Labour Fascists. This is echoed by other Left extremists such as Anarchists. Some Indian Nationalists consider the British trade unions to be Fascist organizations.

Communists: A considerable school of thought (examples, Rauschning, Peter Drucker, James Burnham, F. A. Voigt) refuses to recognize a difference between the Nazi and Soviet régimes, and holds that all Fascists and Communists are aiming at approximately the same thing and are even to some extent the same people. Leaders in The Times (pre-war) have referred to the U.S.S.R. as a ‘Fascist country’. Again from a different angle this is echoed by Anarchists and Trotskyists.

Trotskyists: Communists charge the Trotskyists proper, i.e. Trotsky's own organization, with being a crypto-Fascist organization in Nazi pay. This was widely believed on the Left during the Popular Front period. In their ultra-Right phases the Communists tend to apply the same accusation to all factions to the Left of themselves, e.g. Common Wealth or the I.L.P.

Catholics: Outside its own ranks, the Catholic Church is almost universally regarded as pro-Fascist, both objectively and subjectively;

War resisters: Pacifists and others who are anti-war are frequently accused not only of making things easier for the Axis, but of becoming tinged with pro-Fascist feeling.

Supporters of the war: War resisters usually base their case on the claim that British imperialism is worse than Nazism, and tend to apply the term ‘Fascist’ to anyone who wishes for a military victory. The supporters of the People's Convention came near to claiming that willingness to resist a Nazi invasion was a sign of Fascist sympathies. The Home Guard was denounced as a Fascist organization as soon as it appeared. In addition, the whole of the Left tends to equate militarism with Fascism. Politically conscious private soldiers nearly always refer to their officers as ‘Fascist-minded’ or ‘natural Fascists’. Battle-schools, spit and polish, saluting of officers are all considered conducive to Fascism. Before the war, joining the Territorials was regarded as a sign of Fascist tendencies. Conscription and a professional army are both denounced as Fascist phenomena.

Nationalists: Nationalism is universally regarded as inherently Fascist, but this is held only to apply to such national movements as the speaker happens to disapprove of. Arab nationalism, Polish nationalism, Finnish nationalism, the Indian Congress Party, the Muslim League, Zionism, and the I.R.A. are all described as Fascist but not by the same people.

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It will be seen that, as used, the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else.

Yet underneath all this mess there does lie a kind of buried meaning. To begin with, it is clear that there are very great differences, some of them easy to point out and not easy to explain away, between the régimes called Fascist and those called democratic. Secondly, if ‘Fascist’ means ‘in sympathy with Hitler’, some of the accusations I have listed above are obviously very much more justified than others. Thirdly, even the people who recklessly fling the word ‘Fascist’ in every direction attach at any rate an emotional significance to it. By ‘Fascism’ they mean, roughly speaking, something cruel, unscrupulous, arrogant, obscurantist, anti-liberal and anti-working-class. Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathizers, almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come.

But Fascism is also a political and economic system. Why, then, cannot we have a clear and generally accepted definition of it? Alas! we shall not get one — not yet, anyway. To say why would take too long, but basically it is because it is impossible to define Fascism satisfactorily without making admissions which neither the Fascists themselves, nor the Conservatives, nor Socialists of any colour, are willing to make. All one can do for the moment is to use the word with a certain amount of circumspection and not, as is usually done, degrade it to the level of a swearword.

 

If Trump is not a fascist, he is a very good facsimile of same.

He is a control freak......and that lends to a fascist style of leadership......be it business or politics. The fortunate thing during his term was that there were still some guardrails around him. (which he despised),
Should he win again...there won't be as many....so his "true colors" will emerge even more clearly.

 

So what would you label a guy who checked all the boxes in post #217?

 

1) No, actually, calling Democrats "Marxists" is not more accurate, at all.

2) What the hell are your words, "take preference to parents," supposed to mean? Whatever you're trying to say, is written incorrectly. To "take preference to parents," is a meaningless phrase. Did you mean to write, "take objection to parents?"

If "preference" had been the right word, one might "give" preference to (for example) "the concerns of" parents. But that is obviously not the idea you are so inarticulately trying to convey.

It kind of makes me discount your opinions on education, that you are so poor at expressing your thoughts.

 

Since your understanding of the words seems limited (though in proper usage) I will add more words to make it easier for you.....Schools opinions, and lack of morals seem to take 1st place over the opinions of the parents of whom God entrusted the well being of their children.

You have always discounted the opinions of those you believe to be inferior to your higher indoctrination. That is not news. Your snarky comments only verify the spirit of intent when Hillary, with her nose in the air, referred to half the Nation as deplorables!
The Marxist Culture is revealed more and more as the strategy to discount your opposition is thoroughly seen.

 

LOL-- those added words are not to "make it easier for" me-- they are to to change your nonsense phrase, into an intelligible sentence. FYI, your prior version-- "when schools begin to take preference to parents, (well), that is Marxism at its roots!"--is not the equivalent of what you have written, in the quote, at top. Apparently, your intended meaning, had been more like: when government begins to give preference to schools, over parents..."

The way you had phrased it, as I had said, was not just incorrect English, but had no clearly decipherable meaning, at all.


yabberefugee said: ↑
I prefer calling them "Marxists".....that would be far more accurate. When schools begin to take preference to parents, wel, that is Marxism at it's roots!


DEFinning said: ↑
What the hell are your words, "take preference to parents," supposed to mean? Whatever you're trying to say, is written incorrectly. To "take preference to parents," is a meaningless phrase. Did you mean to write, "take objection to parents?"

 

So what would you label a guy who checked all the boxes in post #217? (I meant #216, of course)

 

You could call that guy a "progressive democrat" -- among other things.

 

I don't think you understood the point, no offense. The point is by these loose rules, anyone can be called a fascist. The word has literally no meaning, in current year, and hasn't had one for 75 years.