Is Trump a Fascist?

When the same guy is being invited to CPAC events and is being praised by one of our political factions, then yes, that is our business, bruh. And don't sit here in pretend you've never criticized the policies of another country.

 

Edna with due respect I will challenge your take on Hussein not having a personality cult because with due respect is just not accurate if you deny his personality cult. I agree with the other comments of course.

https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/the-complex-legacy-of-saddam-hussein

Look Hussein, Mao, Hitler, Mussolini, Peron, Franco, Noriega, Salazar, Stroessner, Pinochet, Castro, Stalin, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, Ceausecu, Hoxha, Putin, all the Kims in Korea, Bokassa, Amin, Mugabe, on and on you take your pick they all have or had their cults.

Some cult figures or targets of extreme adoration were benevolent like say Martin Luther King, Mandela, Churchill, others were borderline like Generals DeGaulle, Patton, Montgomery, McArthur.

Look at all the musicians and actors let alone religious leaders who deliberately cultivate cult worship. Its about money and power.

In regards to Trump he of course runs a personality cult of obedience with extreme emotional control of his followers that requires strict obedience to him no different than any leader of any cult of personality. You can't question him. If you do your degraded by him with insults and defined as the enemy. He cannot in his narcissistic mind set deal with any kind of person challenging him. He can not see any feeling or thought he has, as problematic. This has nothing to do with any specific political ideology. Trump clearly has no ideology other than what is in it for him in the moment and that is usually KFC or Big Macs.


Edna I keep arguing, humans as homo sapien primates still are pack animals that want to fall in line and follow alpha males. We have not yet evolved and Trump is but another repeat example of our pack mentality and how easy we give up free choice to blindly follow the inflamed buttocks of the head alpha baboon.

Edna I prefer my dogs. I know where I stand with them.No b.s. and they do not worship me or vice versa.

We just sit around burping and drooling. Come join us.

I can honestly say other than Martin Luther King, Muhammed Ali and Yitzhak Rabin, Eleanor Roosevelt, or unsung unknown soldiers who died or sacrificed for all of us, first responders, I never put much faith in people.

 

You don't get to try and push your bullshit social agenda on other countries. And the more pushback you get on that, the better.

 

The street is your home. Your neighborhood. You don't get to push your social agenda on another country. They have a right to live and be governed how ever which way they decide. And if that goes against your dipshit social values...I don't give a ****

 

And if the Chinese want to put Uyghurs in interment camps and reeducate them....that's on them bruh.

Not. Your. Business, Bruh

 

I think Saddam attempted to have a cult of personality by taking over the media and plastering his face everywhere, but the Kurds and Shi'ites still hated him and he ruled the rest through fear. Even so, a cult of personality alone does not make you a fascist.
And indeed Donny is mental...

 

Notice how in an attempt to demand race mixing or pushing the trans ****...you had to go to the Uyghurs?

Not every country agrees in diversity bruh. And not every country is on board with the trans bullshit.

Not your business, bruh.

 

Excuse me? The US did not invade Ukraine, Russia did and so if you want to use an analogy try just like Russia in Georgia, Afghanistan, Syria. They are an illegal invading and occupying force breaking numerous international laws.

Ukraine has rebelled against a Russian puppet dictatorship and illegal control and invasion of its country by Putin. That is not at all what happened in Vietnam.

Why do you not discuss the Iranians, North Koreans, Chinese, South Africans, Indians, etc., who were or are in Moscow transferring weapons? Hmmmm?

By the way how is Ukraine like Vietnam finish your analogy. You really think the US is the only other NATO military presence with liaisons and advisors in Ukraine?

Even my country Canada has a not so secret military force of 600 advisors on the ground training Ukrainians. No we were not in Vietnam. Give it a rest with your ridiculous attempts to invert the US and Russia roles in this conflict.

The US is not operating on its own and is working in full alliance with NATO. In fact other NATO countries are providing as much if not more military hardware to assist Ukraine.[/QUOTE]
I posted a link writing that we actually have troops in Ukraine. The response incorrectly states that the very link I posted states there are none, "nice try". I pointed out that this is incorrect and quoted the article linked admitting to some US troops in that country and warned, however reasonable it may sound, this is how the US started in Vietnam, followed by some 50,000 dead US soldiers median age of 19. I do not want that happening there. Period. I'm not questioning the legitimacy of the US presence there but whether or not on balance this is worthy of US involvement. I write, it is not.

 

Its not all too surprising that the victims of a dictator's policy dont like him. I doubt that Hitler was very popular among German Jews. To establish a cult around your personality doesnt mean you succeed with everyone, no one ever did that.

Saddam was one of the absolute extremes when it comes to personality cult.

Right, Reich mentioned some more traits in his video.

My points were:

1. His definition is doubtfully and pretty random.

2. His moral judgement he derives from that is wicked.

3. He doesnt even apply his imo wrong definition of fascism consistently.

He is a woke lunatic whose hate for Trump goes so far that he calls guys like Mao Zedong, Saddam Hussein, Idi Amin and guys like that as a lesser of two evils in comparison with Trump. The analysis says **** about Trump, but says all about Reich and people who support these wicked ideas.

 

The question was, "Is Trump a Fascist". And he isn't. But I never said anything about some of his followers.

He doesn't want to change society. He couldn't give a dusty **** about society. His voters may want to, but he doesn't because he doesn't care. That's not what this is about for him. Hell, if more people had liked him, he'd be a Democrat today instead of a Republican and he'd be championing THEIR whatevers if they gave him the praise, attention, and adulation he desires and finally started receiving from the only people desperate enough to support a man like him. That's why he's not a fascist. If the liberals had liked him first and given him what he wanted, he would have never become a Republican.

 

Jail a criminal you mean, who broke real laws and tried to steal an election that he lost by inventing a fake narrative that did real damage.

You see, the thing about Trump's narratives is, they just don't hold up under any scrutiny. You have to want to believe them in order for them to have any semblance of reality, and even then, they aren't real in the sense that it's actually true and factual in the real world, it just becomes real enough in your own mind that you're willing to believe it because it's more appealing to you than reality is.

You know who that sounds like? The progressives.

Congratulations, you're the right-wing version of a progressive.

 

I mean, they all are guilty fella. Your most solid case is regarding having classified documents. Classified documents which Biden had illegally stored in his garage since he was VP. Which the last time he was VP was 2016. The documents were found in 2022. 6 years later.

 

He's clearly guilty for his meddling in Georgia too. In fact, all of the charges against him except for the ones in NY state are valid and serious.

I am not happy about the double standard regarding the documents. Both Pence and Biden, in addition to Trump, had classified documents. That's beyond concerning, because it means there's likely more of them floating around out there too. While the situations do differ because Trump actively refused to return documents and then lied about it, that's actually less concerning(and completely unsurprising coming from Trump) than him(and the VPs) having the documents to begin with.

Even if Trump escapes culpability for the documents issue, I hope this whole thing will be a catalyst to improve security and access to classified information.

 

Apparently I offend your dipshit values. I don't give a s**t. We are allowed to look at other countries and see if that's how WE would like to be governed. Ergo, we can judge them. In the judging, we decide if their leaders are worth listening to. I don't think I'd lie living in Hungary and their leader is an evil idiot. What he says isn't worth the spit it took to say it.

 

The fact that others are guilty of the same crime does not excuse anyone. The idea that a law only applies if everyone obeys it is ridiculous on its face.

 

More to the point, it's likely that EVERY SINGLE POLITICIAN has dirty hands and has abused their position. Probably since the very beginning of the constitution. Trump's crimes don't bother me any more than Biden having held onto documents illegally for 6 years in his garage.

My main concern is policy. And Trump's foreign policy, his social policies, his border policies and his economic policies were all sound, while as we are currently all experiencing...Biden's policies are a ****ing disaster.

I would much prefer that the choice wasn't boiled down to Trump vs Biden but since it is...Trump was better for the entire ****ing world, especially the United States.

 

No one has demanded a thing from you. This is a forum where people express positions no different than you. Stop playing oppressed. You are not being asked to change your sex. Get real man.

 

I never made that claim.

My claim as proven by the leader of Hungary, is that Democrats like to push their social policies onto other countries. **** like the trans nonsense or diversity.

Neither of those topics are for us to enforce on other States. At all. Period. Not our business. It's actually rather authoritarian of the democratic administration to expect that.

 

Your first paragraph is what-about-ism. You in effect argue criminal relativity arguing what Trump has done and has been charged with has been done buy other politicians (absolutely false) and makes them equally as acceptable to you (one man's unethical, illegal or dishonest behaviour may make all crimes no big deal for you but the law does not work that way). You show how you lower what you expect of politicians to sewage. That may be your low expectation but you speak for yourself or other Trump apologists but NOT the majority of Americans.

Next you defend Trump's foreign policies. Of course. You defend a man that fought and insulted the closest allies of the US including every NATO nation and supported human rights dictators like Kim in Korea and Putin in Russia and tried to leverage support for Ukraine blackmailing Ukraine to get dirt on Biden which to this day has never been produced. Yah that was quite the foreign policy an all time high for Trump openly supporting Him and Putin not to mention refuse to allow the US armed forces in Syria save Kurd citizens from Syrian and Iranian slaughter. Yah an all time high in admirable foreign policy.

His border policy was an out and out lie. He never built any wall and used it as a pathetic transparent excuse to garner white extremist supremacist support by describing immigrants and all Latin peoples as less than human. Pathetic hateful scapegoating to pander to his audience who feel threatened and him posing as their white cultural saviour using the barely disguised racist term"Make America Greater" while calling on his military to attack US citizens while defending extreme right wing terrorists and violent protesters that support him and calling them good people and calling on them to be prepared to engage in violence for him. Yah quite the legacy.

Next you claim he had sound economic policies. You haven't a damn clue what they were because in 4 years in office he stood for not one thing. His entire platform was to say what he hated but never once did this man propose a policy. To this day he claims he is going to talk of an alternative health policy. Lol.

The maga crap about Trump and his management of the economy is a joke.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/me...n-t-build-great-economy-he-inherited-n1237793


https://www.politifact.com/factchec...ald-trump-didnt-lead-greatest-economy-histor/

https://www.economist.com/united-st...QCcJguIAD-etIYmLw_0aAvHEEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

https://www.epi.org/blog/the-trump-...pre-covid-19-19-economy-too-just-more-slowly/

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/

https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump

Here is a non partisan comparison of Trump and Biden regimes with the economy:

https://www.barrons.com/articles/trump-vs-biden-economy-ec8ff89a

 

Any US government, Republican or Democrat has advocated the best interests of the US and specifically its business and "social" interests when those social interests favour its business interests. All countries do regardless of the party in power if they elect them.

For you to say only US Democratic regimes have done this is just out and out ridiculous. The US runs the largest military industrial complex in the world and military hardware is its no.1 export. No that industry is not a transgender conspiracy. Get real man.

More to the point if the US was pushing its "social agenda" on the rest of the world with transgender lifestyle or gay equality you need to explain how its only been done by Biden or Obama and how its being done. What nonsense.

Hey man you hate the transgender lifestyle being imposed on you as you claim, don't deflect and pretend you are a foreign country being imposed upon for sex change operations by the US Biden regime. Stop being ridiculous.

The US is not invading any nation and imposing sex change operations or flooding public libraries in these countries with drag queen readings. Get phacking real man with the maga crap.

 

Criticizing isn't "pushing." And are you seriously saying you've never criticized anything that any other country has done? I doubt that.

TL;DR - you are whining that criticizing authoritarianism is somehow, itself, authoritarian . . . which is the dumbest, most dog-**** take possible.

 

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Yes, calling a moderate liberal Reform/Democrat/Republican a "Fascist" is a bit of a stretch.
Call him "confused" and it might stick.

 

Again, how does any of that exonerate TFG? This thread is about him, not Biden or politicians in general.

 

Lol, the guy complaining about "race mixing" and trans people wants to talk about what is or isn't someone else's business. Pure comedy gold.

 

None of our business how other countries want to govern bruh

Your virtue mountain is about the size of an ant hill.