Will the War in Gaza Ignite the Middle East?..Israel and Iran On a Collision Course

Nobody in the west cares that the Vatican is like this. The head of the UK is also the head of the Church of England. Nobody cares.
Top of my head, all but 1 president swore to uphold the constitution by placing his hand on the bible.
Still, nobody cares.

Zionistic nonsense.

 

The ability of Iran to produce and deploy so many military platforms in the face of US sanctions, whether missiles (ballistic, hypersonic, cruise, anti-aircraft, anti-tank...), drones (of more variety and quantity compared to practically anywhere else), naval vessels (destroyers, frigates, corvettes, submarines...) etc is truly amazing. Not a week goes by without Iran introducing new systems into service. The sanctions have definitely hurt Iran's underprivileged, its working poor and even the middle class, but they somehow have failed to have any impact on Iran's military or nuclear programs.

 

So Iran has replaced the Kharg an ready to attack. The mullahs are crazy dangerous so our evaluation of their anger and hostility is correct. They need to kill infidels (that's us) to get to PARADISE and all this military hardware is being built to do just that. Iran is the most dangerous nation on earth.

 

For better or worse, Iran's mullahs are in no hurry to get to "paradise". In fact, most of them live famously long lives, often well into their 90s and beyond. For instance, the head of Iran's Guardians Council, Ayatollah Janati, is around 100 years old and if some opposition outlets are to be believed, he might be a newly wed too

But Iran has undergone a massive build up of its forces in recent years, particularly after Trump's election, actions and rhetoric. Sorry if that doesn't sit well with your partisan view of the world, but it is the truth. And if you thought about it and ignored the ridiculous propaganda you seem to feed on, it makes sense too. The danger to Iran and the regime has increased.

 

Radical muslims kill infidels to get to Paradise. The mullahs are old because its only now that they have all the tools you described to kill infidels. Complain about Trump all you want but he never went around screaming "DEATH TO IRAN" like Iranians go around screaming "DEATH TO ISRAEL" and "DEATH TO THE GREAT SATAN" ... as they call America. Trump never went around screaming anything like that. Iranians love to call for the deaths of others.

 

...is irrelevant....if anything your mates the Russians in Ukraine have taught us that having quantity means f**k all....pretty pictures of boats is fine....please don't sit behind your keyboard trying to tell me that Iran has a navy that can do anything other than commit acts of piracy against un-armed merchantmen.

 

Iran had stopped chanting "death to America" by the late 1990s, and was even helping the US oust the Taliban in Afghanistan, when the neocons during Bush's 2002 State of the Union speech suddenly decided to put Iran on their "axis of evil" list and openly declare their wish to undermine its regime. They did so because of PNAC and under the influence of the pro Israel lobby. Since then, both sides have had their way of hitting at one another. The punches by the US, as a superpower, have landed more harshly, but the US is constantly reminded that Iran has a few serious punches of its own to throw.

In any case, going back to Iran's naval plans, Iran definitely would like to establish naval bases in the eastern Mediterranean (Syria) and the Atlantic Ocean (Venezuela). The Russians scuttled Iran's plans for a naval base in Syria pursuant to an arrangement Putin had worked out with Trump and Netanyahu (the "Putin Bargain" under which, in return for the US turning a blind eye on their ambitions in Ukraine, they would help kick Iran out of Syria.

 

..these mad Mullah's are semi-literate religious freaks with a penchant for the high life...they couldn't give a rats fart for anyone other than their private bankers and accountants...Iran needs to separate church and state and let the mullahs prattle on about god or whatever they do...prey to their stash of cash...and let the people of Iran try and re-build the crap heap the mullahs have made it....separate church and state and all this radicalised religious bollocks including the Israelies goes away and people can start to live in some semblance of peace...

 

You are the one behind your keyboard writing whatever. Otherwise, even before some of Iran's latest military deployments, the assessment from the US military itself was in opposite of what you say. If you wish, I can (again) cite you chapter and verse.

 

You are the one who is semi-literate. The shia clergy (those who become mujtahid and attain the ranks of Ayatollah etc) are actually quite highly educated. Stop talking about things you don't understand.

 

...says the man posting pictures of boats....

 

....ah yes....I recall the same about the Russia Military....you see the issue with assessments is that if you write an assessment that says we can beat the living crap of of someone then you get de-funded and the money goes to someone who writes a wobbly lipped report stating that unless they get an increase of a gazzillion sponds then the world will end.....so much for assessments.....next issue

 

I posted those pictures because I was responding to a post that had suggested the loss of the Kharg supply ship meant something about Iran's ability to base armaments far away from its shores.

So we should go with your "expert" assessment instead! The assessments I am referring to come from America's top bras and commanders at CENTCOM, not lobbyists. And you can find their credence in the fact that the US-Iran have regular encounters where the US is (uncharacteristically) careful not to cross established red lines.

 

sure...why not....whatever floats yer boat.....

oh mate.....they ARE bloody lobbyists!!...that's their job...to lobby for funding for their service....things don't just happen...people don't just line up and hand out funds...the mechanisms involved in extracting money from the public purse are as diverse as they are highly developed....

 

Yes, indeed.
The Pro-Hamas Crowd's Ignorance of History
Victor Davis Hanson, American Greatness

 

The Israelis are coming.

AP News
Israel-Hamas war: Israel resumes combat in Gaza Strip as truce expires

 

I would love to agree, but I still remember the hubris of the Soviet military when it dismissed the Mujahideen in Afghanistan as just a bunch of irrelevant, helpless peasants and goat-herders. BUT, technology (provided in quantity by the United States) changed all that! Shortly after the goat-herders started shooting down one Soviet Hind (Krokodil) helicopter after another with American-supplied shoulder-mounted missiles, the Soviet hubris subsided.

After ten years of fighting the Mujahideen, the Soviets had buried 15,000 of their own soldiers, and had another 35,000 wounded military personnel stuffed in their badly-equipped hospitals. They packed up their stuff and left....

My point? If somebody (Russia? China? North Korea? Somebody else?) provides sophisticated, powerful weaponry to Iran, they might just surprise the hell out of us! Think about it... as it already is today, we see "tent-dwelling camel-herder peasants" in another backward Islamo-quagmire, Yemen, firing missiles at Israel from 360 miles away!

 

I don't think so. That crazy little bastard in NK is the loosest cannon.

 

It appears that the truce in Gaza is really over, with no immediate prospects for another such 'pause' in hostilities to occur. The Israeli military has resumed its mission to eliminate Hamas, and in the days to come it appears quite likely that a lot of those Muslim 'true-believers' and their supporters inside Gaza are going to get transported to 'Islamo-heaven' where they can enjoy the well-known "72 virgins" and other fun features of their afterlife....

Link: https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...el-hamas-agree-extend-truce-again-2023-12-01/

 

Actually I think China has him on a tight leash. His nukes are right next door.

 

As usual our education system is run primarily by liberals, who are also either poorly educated or have an nefarious agenda. This is not unexpected. What bothers me is when are the Jews going to stop voting Democrat? I mean seriously, how much backstabbing does it take for them to get the message?

 

I suspect the emergence of a Jewish Republican voting bloc will be a big story in 2024.

 

That would be refreshing, and long overdue.

 

sure anything can happen....but....I seriously doubt it in Iran IF and I caveat that again...IF leassons have been learned. The issue with super weapons being given to crackpot little countries is that you need to create the respective ecosystems within which these weapons systems exit....one weapons type will not achieve much unless it exists within its comfort zone so to speak...Iran like most shytehole countries doesn't have that.....they just have a hodge podge of khaki things which go bang....sometimes....and a whole truckload of peasants that are not really capable of much more than hip firing AKs....
Okay.....that said...as you say about Afghanistan...I couldn't agree more. The issue with the US/UK involvement in Afghanistan was legendary in how not to go swaggering into a fight without having a clue what you are doing...from the moronic "good news" reporting system within the military chain which managed to morph very confused/stressed situations into a delightfully rosey picture of everything under control (by the time it got to cmd hq). Coupled with the fact that there was no clear purpose, a complete lack of understanding of mission and achievement or indeed what the squaddies were actually getting into...and and and....in short the US/UK involvement in ISAF/Herrick was a complete and total f**k-up of monumental proportions....UK forces are beggining to understand what a complete shambles it was and I assume in the deepest parts of the Pentagon US thinkers now understand just how f**ked up it was too.

 

Iranian propaganda... all of it