Will the War in Gaza Ignite the Middle East?..Israel and Iran On a Collision Course

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Who is to say an admirer of Adolf Hitler, and passages from Mein Kompf, can't come to Israel's aid? Israel needs all the support it can get, a little confusion on the Fuhrer's part about the real master race and the identity of those degenerates whose existence is superfluous notwithstanding.

 

I totally disagree with that but that was funny!

 

While thus examining the working of the Jewish race over long periods of history, the anxious suddenly occurred to me whether perhaps inscrutable Destiny, for reasons unknown to us poor mortals, had not unalterably decreed the final victory to this little race?

- Adolf Hitler, from from Mein Kampf, Volume I, Chapter II, "Years of Study and Suffering in Vienna"

 

"anxious suddenly" should be "anxious question suddenly."

Hitler thought the Jews were intelligent and evil. I think the Jews are intelligent and good.

 

Free elections and free speech, free press.

 

The US Navy is on the scene.


Hijacking attempt on Israel-linked ship thwarted by Navy, officials say

 

"From day 1, Hamas was willing to enter into a deal to exchange its captives for the ones held by Israel. It was Israel which had rejected these offers" - where is this offer ? when and where was it offered ?
To my knowledge they made no offers on the kidnapped till IDF invaded Gaza, that's just another lie.

Otherwise post this offer, right next to the general believe here that Hamas only wants peace with Israel, let's start proving all your claims.

 

End of current hostilities ?
Truly....it never stops to amaze me, you pro-palestinian ppl really live in a lie...

 

You can do your own research but here is 1 quick report from Oct 17 which can get you started:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/invest...ess-release-captive-women-children-rcna120776
Hamas expresses willingness to release some captive women and children

 

You think we don't have the troops needed for this Gaza operation ?

 

Not for the fanciful goals and objectives Israel has claimed to be pursuing.

 

There is no "research" to do because there was never an offer, "willingness" is great, that's why they kidnapped civilians because they would be willing to exchange them. the time and the price was reduced to now and 3 to 1 only thanks to IDF actions.

 

Which is eliminating Hamas,
We'll see

 

The adage about "victory having many fathers while failure is an orphan" will hopefully let you see, perhaps more clearly when all is said and done.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-rcna126940
Israel-Hamas war live updates: More hostages to be released after Gaza cease-fire extended
Israel will also release more Palestinian prisoners as the temporary truce enters a fifth day.

 

As always, the devil is in the details but conceptually it sounds like something worthwhile to explore.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-amid-israel-hamas-war?embedded-checkout=true

 

In case anyone forgot, this illustrates the difference between the two sides. Israel targets Hamas, and because Hamas hides among civilians, civilians are sometimes killed. Hamas targets Israeli civilians.
Two Hamas gunmen open fire at Jerusalem bus stop, ...

Reuters
https://www.reuters.com › world › middle-east › shootin...


8 hours ago — ... Israel reiterated its commitment to wiping out the Palestinian Islamist faction, whose Oct. 7 killing spree triggered the Gaza war.

 

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...ther-day/0000018c-2367-d4e6-affd-2f675df00000
Israel-Hamas War Day 56 |
IDF: Hamas Violated Cease-fire Agreement, Fired at Israel; We Are Renewing Action in Gaza

 

This piece is by Israel's former consul-general in New York. He touches on one aspect of what I had already predicted early in this war, when I noted that Israel is trapped by its own rhetoric (fanciful war objectives) and propaganda (attempt at total and complete discrediting of Hamas, trying to liken it to ISIS).
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/30/netanyahu-hamas-lose-win-israeli-public-us
Netanyahu is stuck as he battles Hamas: he can’t afford to lose, yet can’t find a way to win
Paralysed by the demands of the Israeli public and the US, the PM is struggling to offer solutions or a vision of the future

 

Incidentally, one of the reasons for this thread is to highlight the danger from this trap Israel has set for itself. The Israeli war objectives and propaganda require either (a) an Israeli genocide of the Palestinians in Gaza, which even if permitted by Israel's American sponsors, would inevitably lead to a regional war or, (b) a Hail Mary by the Israelis through a large scale attack on Hezbollah and/or escalation with Iran, as a consequence of which a reluctant United States would be dragged into the war. Which is what Israel and the pro Israel lobby have been clamoring to bring about ever since the Bush administration.

 

Iran is a theocracy. Its goals and objectives have little to do with this world. Iran's leaders want to get to PARADISE and you do that by killing non-believers (infidels). This life is just an entranceway to PARADISE... a foyer... nothing more. (That term... "foyer" was used by my I-T (Interpreter-Translator) in Iraq.)

The scary scenario that keeps the Pentagon up at night goes like this:

Iran establishes a fleet of trawlers, fishing boats and the like... and flags them in various nations across the globe. Then they place a nuke in the hold of each one and schedule them to arrive in US coastal cities simultaneously. The nukes are detonated at the same time. Meanwhile, an Iranian ship is parked off the US coast which will launch a missile carrying a nuke that will detonate over the center of the US, disabling the heartland with EMP.

That ship was to be the Kharg, which was capable of serving as a helicopter tender. It had elevators which could hide a TEL (SCUD "Transporter Erector Launcher) below decks until ready to launch. A few years ago, the Kharg burned and sank in a special operations-style attack. That postponed the feared attack... for awhile.

 

lol to all of it...clueless rubbish

...and if that is (it isn't) keeps "the Pentagon up at night", I pity them. Iran has pretty effective and realistic ways to hit back at the US -- most of which the Pentagon is well aware of.

As for large forward base ships, Iran has plenty of them right now. Some like the Iranian navy's Makran rivaling America's Forward Base Ships in size.

or take IRGC's Shahid Roudaki


or the IRGC's even larger Shahid Mahdavi.

 

Here is a little more on some of Iran's naval deployments just this year.
Iran IRGC Adds New Warship, 100 Missile-Launching Boats to Navy Fleet


And just this week, the 6th of the domestically produced Jamaran class destroyers/frigates was launched
https://apnews.com/article/iran-warship-navy-caspian-sea-79164ae32aa090a1579e74f595e7962f
Iran adds a sophisticated warship to its Caspian Sea fleet


One of my favorites, however, is the Shahid Soleimani catamaran frigates developed by Iran



Several are in service already, more of them to be launched soon

 

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trap...what trap...?? How does this differ from the last what is it...70-80 years...f**k knows how long? Anyway.....both sides are so amazingly screwed up which makes the only difference, I suppose, being the wragheads pulling the strings from their luxury air conditioned villas in Qatar. Take them out and this fiasco probably all goes away. Otherwise these manically radicalised religious wankers in Israel, Iran and rest the Middle East will just continue banging away at each other....in which case....who gives a crap....let em' beat the bollocks out of each other as they're all so fundamentally radicalised that only the total destruction of one or the other will suffice and there's sod all anyone can do about it otherwise.