Whoops! The Economy is GREAT and getting better!

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    It's an error. You should be able to figure it out if not too bad.
    This...
    Contradicts this.

    Trump is moderate in being the only thing you think is a "conservative with a backbone" is anti Trump nitwits like Cheney and Romney.

    It's almost like you are using partisan hackery to come up with this.
    News media conspiracy theories aren't reality. If you're going to convince me that you are a liberal moderate don't duplicate CNN talking points.
     
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    ... you will see 'Tell a big enough lie loud enough and often enough, people will believe it"
    On the list of people who believe the lie that correlation proves causation is... you.

    To prove causation you need to demonstrate the necessary relationship between the effect in question and the cause you claim..
    Correlation cannot do this.
    And, with regard to Democrats being in charge and good economic times -- neither can you.
    Toots.
     
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  3. Noone

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    WoW!
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    What was it you said?

    YOU'RE FUN!
     
  4. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Anytime I see that little square come up in my notifications with no one in it I know I'm going to have a chuckle.
     
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    About 25 times
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    History doesn't lie. Democrats are much better at economics. The Great Depression and Great Recession are prime examples; Democrats have never done anything like that. :)
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    So all you got is insults. I offer evidence to those I feel will actually read and considerate it. You're not in that cohort, IMHO. But you're not alone - it's a classic LW stalling/derailing tactic.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How silly. No one can prove a negative. I don't believe there is a god, mostly because there has never been any testable proof.
    That's your fairy story, not mine.
    We, meaning the forum participants. I'm not the only one who notices your failure to prove your claims, and the snarky backpedalling you do when called out on it. Also, you're not alone. There are several here regularly with the same issue, mostly righties but a few lefties as well.
    This exchange of posts shows otherwise.

    Odd you'd say that, because I just ceded a point to someone, with thanks. See #207.

    How is that relevant? I didn't accuse you of ignorance, just of not being credible with your stated opinions.

    LOL! Sure hope you aren't trying to make a living that way!
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, sorry, but when you post something that incoherent, then snark at someone who politely requests that you clarify your remark, then you have completely lost the debate and all credibility.

    I'm done here. :bye:

    P.S. Maybe try a little punctuation now and then. Commas are your friends. :)
     
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    Not insults, just expressing frustration with those who have brains, yet refuse to use them.

    I don't stall, or delay, or obfuscate (unless it's in fun). I back up my opinions with links to facts. If you say something nasty about liberals as if it were the truth, then yes, I expect you to provide proof when challenged. If you can't stand up to a little challenge to your opinions, what are you even doing here?
     
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    When I said that you seemed to think otherwise.
    Do you have multiple participants in your body?
    Guess I just don't need the ego stroking
    What in this exchange suggests I want to to take my word for anything?


    That's the reason I don't provide evidence for anything. Keep up.

    What getting paid for working for others too lazy or incompetent to do it? That's how I make my living.
     
  12. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Run away and pretend it's butthurt over commas.
     
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    Yes. The Dems (and Biden ) have proven that they can deal with the economic challenges that have taken lace in a patient, intelligent , careful maner. Although it is a generalization......they are not prone to "instant fixes" and sensational , dramatic ideas that are short lived .
    The issue is that many are too impatient and want things fixed NOW...... as if such instant reparis are realistic.. Tehy then blem the POTUS...... ( not6 considering how much better they would do in handling these complex and challenging issues using their instant gratification principles )
    Things are turning around in a positive way...... but with care , not some grandiose impulsive action.
    It matters little if the Trumpsters don't acknowledge this improvement. The results are speaking for themselves.
     
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    More or less, job security.
     
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    How is it BS?

    I don't think it is great, but it is not a depression that's for damn sure that DJT has claimed recently. Stock Market hit an all time high. That is good news for those who have 401k accounts, generally for IRAs, and so forth. It shows our economy is resilient even though we have 3% inflation, more or less, on a per anum basis. That too is good news.

    It is not the doom and gloom that the GOP is trying to portray here given the actual facts.
     
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    You do realize the top 1% are the ones complaining the most about the "economy" despite the fact they are making money in the stock market hand over fist and want back the days of DJT. We call that hypocrisy.

    Anyway, most average people who "own" stock are through their 401k plans at work or the IRA's that they have in mutual funds.
     
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    Indeed. The GOP does have a propensity for the dramatic in their negativity , so recognizing the positives does not come naturally to them.

    Maybe teh y just refuse to give Biden ANY credit for whathe has accomplished and against so many odds.
     
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    Im predicting something completely unexpected, I have no idea what “might” happen.

    However, the riots of 2020 that NOBODY EVER discusses here maybe an indication.

    President Trump is holding speaking engagements around the country, biden obviously can barely firm a complete sentence.

    Im happy you have so much faith in bidens handlers, any idea who they are?

    My prediction: biden will be re-elected and will NEVER have to worry about facing the voters again. His handlers will have their way with our country.

    Then, when you are shocked at what decisions are made to our country you will be powerless to do anything.

    Good luck.


    “Already screenshot and saved, if I’m wrong so be it.”
     
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    1. If you are "predicting" something, then you think what "might happen."

    2. The BLM protests have been discussed in length on this forum. We are still dealing with it from time to time.

    3. Trump is holding campaign rallies with a few hundred at most. Biden is currently POTUS and can make sentences. Trump can get things wrong too like the wrong city is in or the leader of a country, or whether or not Puerto Ricans are actually US Citizens, and a whole bunch of other gaffes in the last year or so.

    4. It is still up in the air on who will win 2024 Presidential election. There are several factors, least of which are those four damn indictments Trump is facing. We have a good economy now. If that continues, it will be harder for the GOP to win the WH when 2024 election come. Remember, in the 2016 election, HRC was leading in the polls a year before we had the election. Care to guess who actually won the 2016 election? It was DJT. This shows you that polls only take the current snap shot right now. And we are not voting now, we are voting in November 2024 after all political parties make their nominations who will be their candidate.

    5. Joe Biden is doing fine as POTUS, but it is nice to see that your Russian handlers are dictating to you on what to say, what to think, and who to vote for.
     
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    Do you read your own links? The article mentions nothing about campaign rallies, just his lead in the GOP primary polls. They are mutually exclusive and there is another thread in another subforum that has talked about why Trump still leads in the polls despite four indictments, his statements about being a dictator, using the presidency as a revenge administration, and so forth. The GOP does not want to talk about policy which is why Nikki Haley is still lagging behind the polls with DJT. You have Vivek with his constant conspiracy theories, DeSantis who wants to be Trump Light, and finally Gov. Christie leading the rear. But none of that has to do with campaign rallies, does it?

    Look, predicting who will win a year out from the elections is a futile effort given our 24/7/365 news cycle from Cable, traditional, satellite, internet, and social media. Again, we have a history with GHWB, who was president probably before you were born who led in 1991 with a 90% approval rating and lost to a person named William Jefferson Clinton in 1992. Think about that for a moment. Second, we had HRC leading in the polls in 2015 and was leading against Trump most of the time with a tight race eventually in October 2016. Trump won in 2016. And the entire point that you are ignoring here is that polls don't usually predict with 100% accuracy of who the next President is come election time.
     
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    People have decided with their wallets and only 38% thinks the economy is great. Mostly very well off people. This economy is worse than Carter’s. I lived through it. No one cares about rigged formulas.
     
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    And yet, Trump continues to inform his following what to think. In Iowa he said:
    “Together we’re going to bring our country back from hell. Not one thing, if you think about it, has gotten better under ‘Crooked’ Joe Biden. Name one thing where we’re doing well. We’re not respected, the world is laughing at us. Under the Trump administration, you were better off.”

    It doesn't matter how well the economy or the stock market is actually doing - Trump will tell you what to think instead.
     
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    Indeed. .and they accept what he says as "gospel" . Instead of evaluating the situation for themselves. The cult is not known for its critical / independent thinking.
     
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    I am not saying the economy is great, but it is not in a recession or depression that's for damn sure. Personally, it is above average for the economy with low unemployment rates, tight labor markets, a positive trend with most of the leading economic indicators, and a generally positive trend with most of the lagging economic indicators.
     
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