Whoops! The Economy is GREAT and getting better!

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  1. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or any thinking at all, imo.
     
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    My mistake. Who could possibly think telling someone they're not using the brain constitutes an insult? </sarcasm>
    And yet you don't realize you're actually providing the proof in almost every post.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Believing that you are performing in front of an audience or speaking for an audience is a component of narcissism.

    Nobody's watching and nobody cares.
     
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    I said: “I still believe President Trump won’t be re-elected.” and you STILL have a problem with what I said?

    You don’t want tRump as president anyway, why do you have an issue with me agreeing with you?
     
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    Mostly due to government spending. More taxpayer money is spent than the federal government brings in. That is not a sign of a healthy private sector economy.

    The federal government spends money on a variety of goods, programs, and services to support the American public and pay interest incurred from borrowing. In fiscal year (FY) 2023, the government spent $6.13 trillion, which was more than it collected (revenue), resulting in a deficit
     
  6. Hey Now

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    Sorry, if you listen and actually believe Agent Orange, your mind is being poisoned with all kinds of hate. I guess it must be like a drug for his base. Regardless, looks like the FED and Joey Biden are going to be peaking at just the right time. Get out and vote people, especially the silent women's vote. Your freedom and choice are on the line.
     
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  7. Alwayssa

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    Not really since Government expenditures are a total of 37% of GDP as of 2022 Consumer spending is what drives our economy mostly historically and in 2022, it was 67% As the say, as consumer spending goes, so does our economy. We spend on anything and everything from those three easy payments of some product on an infomercial to our impulse buys to whatever. What we are seeing is more of a Keynesian approach to our economy now with government making the infrastructure investments and other spending within GDP while consumers are spending on pretty much everything else despite high interest rates. From 2021 to 2022, we had private consumer spending jump 9%, and that is the most in over two decades. Thus, most is a consumer with the second biggest expenditure being government from defense to infrastructure. Government includes state and federal expenditures here.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/united...spending in the United,percent of GDP in 1907.
    https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicat...sumption accounted,an average share of 63.4 %.
     
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    Republicans were handed the house which writes the budget and could address the overspending — can you show what bills they have proposed?
     
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    Yeah, it was the same line in 1996 when the GOP nominee was running against William Jefferson Clinton, and the same line in 2012 when the GOP nominee was running against Obama, or in 2016 when DJT was running too.
     
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  11. Alwayssa

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    It is not what you said, it is the links you are using and the arguments therein within the links you are using. Nor is it about what you believe who will win or not. Try again
     
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    Man, I really feel sorry for you.
     
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    Then choose better links. Don't make this about me and ignore what you posted even though you may believe DJT may not get elected. The election of DJT is a distraction to the arguments you have made on this thread.
     
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    It’s not about you Alwayssa, I make no apologies for my links. The fact that YOU DON’T like my links is your problem, not mine.

    I’m on the side of the TAXPAYERS OF MY COUNTRY!!!

    The internet is the best/worst thing that has ever happened.

    Have you never questioned why every time you pick up your phone or log in to one of your accounts EVERYTHING YOU SEE IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU AGREE WITH??

    The internet is easily manipulated by Google, Facebook, X/Twitter, or any other big time players.

    Our minds are “no match” for their “ algorithms.

    Go ahead and keep trusting the career politicians that OBVIOUSLY DO NOT CARE about you or your loved ones.

    My reasons for commenting on this board have NOTHING TO DO WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP!!

    The only reason I comment is because I cannot figure out why the taxpayers of this country are ok with ANY corrupt politicians deciding their fate.

    Go ahead and keep thinking I’m against you or any other tax paying citizen.

    My opinion, “Get rid of career politicians, and enforce ANY and ALL politicians to live under the rules they create for at least 5 years after leaving office.
     
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    But since as you say, “everything you see (on the internet) is exactly what you agree with”. Has it ever occurred to you that just maybe our government isn’t as hopeless as you believe?

    I realize it’s far from perfect. But on the other hand it has built the greatest nation on earth. The one we all benefit from and enjoy. Maybe those right wing sites, that contribute greatly to the divisiveness that has Americans at each other’s throats, could be wrong?
     
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    You are completely missing my point, and clearly you haven’t read my posts. I am, ANTIPOLITICIAN.

    My point is: people are addicted to the internet, and trust what they see there every single day.

    They NEVER think about the fact that every single site the visit TAKES ALL OF THEIR INFORMATION, then uses it against them.

    Politicians trade this information (left and RIGHT).

    It’s only my opinion, but a well researched opinion.

    Don’t ask for links now man, it would completely destroy you and your buddies posts.
     
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    No ****, in spite of what you think, I kinda picked up on that. I think I got your point.
    Yep, I got that too. (You know, or should, you can use agnostic search engines that give you a much clearer picture of what's going on. Really - really)
    Not necessarily. I'm a "they" and I'm damn careful about where I go and what I allow off my machine. I'm sure I'm not perfect but I actually have,given it much more than a single thought. Just because it's a big bad world out their doesn't mean you have to be a victim. It just takes work and a little research.
    No doubt.
    "I" don't believe you've done the right research. :)
    I think I could handle it, but, OK.

    Still in all; we live in not just a great country but, the greatest ever! And I love it with all my heart and all I am. I really do believe;
    "that there is nothing wrong with my country that can't be fixed with what's right with my country.

    Right now the biggest thing wrong with my country is Americans that have stopped believing in it and each other. Really - really! :bye:
     
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    Based on your posts that is simply not true.
     
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    Not for long if you and yours keep voting the way you do.
     
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    This is an unsecured site genius. How would you know what precautions I’ve implemented on my network? :wtf:

    That’s just knee jerk “I have to say something” petty bullshit.
     
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    I won’t be voting for a criminal conman that did his best to end Government BY the People. You can bet on that!
     
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    Simply by the answers you’ve given me.
     
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    So you’re not voting for biden?
     
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    That is obviously what is happening.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    My take - having lived in the US for five months this year and now in Germany. Basic items are ridiculously expensive. I have no idea how people in rural towns can afford to live with the supermarket prices that they have to pay. Germany is much cheaper and it used to be the other way around.

    Electronic goods are still very affordable in the US. And gas is ridiculously cheap, whatever your complaints are.

    Restaurant dining is expensive at both.

    Finally, your border crisis is beyond ridiculous. People are obviously coming for economics. That's fine, but why pretend otherwise... I completely diverge with my friends on the left here. I think the US should channel its humanitarian efforts towards a more constructive form than bleeding poor countries of their more proactive citizens.
     
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