Only Trump Can Save America

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would use those same exact words very accurately about Biden. So what's your point?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Prior to the pandemic, it was in better shape than now. More people employed and no inflation.
    Our troops are getting shot at right now.
    The withdraw from Afghanistan was a disaster.

    All you did was copy your own sig. And you call mine repeating.
     
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    And you base this ability on what? The bang up job he did the first time around?

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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you find those gallows to be threatening, you'd be a fun one to be with on Halloween! Get some new material. It's been done before. Hey, isn't that a black/white supremacist I see beyond the stairs?
     
  5. Nwolfe35

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    The noose is only part of that picture. The claim is the guy who inspired a violent attack on the Capitol Building is somehow going to unite the country?

    Yeah, I don't think so.
     
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    Trump has to win election first to save America. Good luck!

    Since Trump won election in 2016 , GOP lost 7 consecutive years – 20017,2018,2019,2020,2021,2022,2023.

    GOP lost special election in 2017.

    GOP lost Mid-term election in 2018.

    GOP Lost Governor race in Kentucky NOV 2019

    GOP Lost Presidential election in 2020.

    GOP lost special election in 2021 and lost 2 Senate positions in GA.

    GOP Lost anti-abortion law in KS AUG 2022.

    GOP lost Senate and two GOV in mid-term 2022 election. Red wave became oh well.

    GOP lost special election in 2023 – In Wisconsin , Liberal judge won state wide election e.

    GOP Lost special election ( Issue 1) in Ohio in 2023

    GOP Lost Governor race in Kentucky NOV 2023

    GOP lost banning abortion in Ohio in NOV 2023

    GOP lost entire Virginia legislative branch in NOV 2023.

    And you think Trump will win in 2024?
     
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    A lot of independents think of abotion in the same way as most Democrats do. Abortion is a women's health care issue, not some religious nuts version of what may be considered "life" from a religious perspective.

    Most of the problems in this country are those who want to rule rather than govern. That tends to be certain people of one particular party, just not the rank and file. but your circular argument of it is not the Democrats but it is the Democrats who tend to be the problem shows just how your political bias works and why there is no unity.
     
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    LOL. You have accepted the political prosecutions as judicial ones. And, he is not my guy. I do not support Trump for president. I have forgotten how long it has been since I actually supported a candidate. I defend him against people like you because there are limits to how corrupt politics can be tolerated.
     
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    Menendez would be prosecuted for actual crimes while Trump is being prosecuted politically on "trumped up" charges. RICO? Are you kidding? You don't see the misapplication of the law? I'm not a lawyer and it is obvious to me. I'm a proponent of keeping Trump off the ballot but using the judicial system to do it turns my stomach.
     
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    I'm always fascinated how political parties blame the opposing party for what they do themselves. I'm also fascinated by people buying into it. I would blame Biden for those things, not Trump. There are always two truths in politics. The reason for that is that the political truths develop from opinions.
     
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    Probably. I certainly do.
     
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    You could have stopped right there.
     
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    It HAS been investigated. Multiple times from multiple lines. You don't like the result of the investigations so you just ignore them.
     
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    The issue...the ONLY issue

    Trump had the documents
    Trump was not authorized to have the documents
    Trump refused to return the documents.

    That's it. Those three statements are facts. There is no argument there is no question.

    Put those three facts together and it adds up to 31 violations of 18 USC 793(e)
     
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    They exist BECAUSE Trump was no longer President.
     
  16. dairyair

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    Sure.
    Then Biden can come in and save the world, AGAIN. From what a 2x impeached incumbent loser did.

    Incumbents don't lose unless they are inept. the 2X impeached got fired for incompetence.
     
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    Mind boggling of those who must only get information from a limited source.
    They don't know what the real issues are surrounding a topic.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ahh, the old 'they do it do' logical fallacy.

    There is no comparison between the frailty and evil that is Trump, and whatever shortcomings Biden has. For one thing, Biden doesn't have four indictments and 92 felony counts he doesn't confuse Pelosi with Nikki, Hillary with Obama, let alone repeatedly, and he doesn't snort Adderall.

    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-snorted-adderall-apprentice-tom-arnold-noel-casler-1257787
     
  19. Patricio Da Silva

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    There is no deep state.

    The moon landing wasn't fake.

    9/11 wasn't an inside job.

    1/6 wasn't caused by the FBI or antifa posing as Trump supporters.

    Trump isn't jesus.

    We need more, not less, immigration.

    And there is no boogeyman.

    I think I learned that when i was four.
     
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    If all there were were a handful of counts, you'd have a point., But 91 felony counts and four indictments, found liable for sex abuse, trump org convicted of fraud, CFO in prison, Campaign manager in prison,
    etc., etc., etc.,

    I think my opinion is a fair one.
    Yeah, right.
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    https://prospect.org/mapping-corruption-interactive
     
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    Trump might the only candidate who will have courage to shut down the border and go for a reset on immigration. Trump claims that he will have mass deportations which remains to be seen.

    No one else will shut the border. Biden will leave it wide open until all of Central and South America is here who wants be here. Biden will also allow terrorists to enter the country. That is a ticking time bomb.
     
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    He doesn't have the power to shut down the border. It takes congress to act.
     
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    A president has the authority to enforce the law, which Biden refuses to do.
     
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    Exactly. Which is why he can't shut down the border. It requires law and congress.
    You've mentioned open border policy in the past. But have never given what that so called policy is.
    I suspect, because there's no policy.
    So, as you said, trump will have to adhere to laws on the border.
     
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  25. Patricio Da Silva

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    No president in history has solved the border problem.

    So no, he can't, the numbers will just build up on the boarder, no matter what. We can't 'close' the border, that is impossible. There is over $3 billion worth of goods traversing the border each day which cannot be stopped (or it would be a disaster if you did). Trump will just shove the illegals to the Mexican side of the border, and the crisis will be on that side of the border, and the problem of it being 'inhumane' remains in place.

    And, it will, in fact, be even more inhumane as he closes the door on asylum. he lies when he says 'they are poisoning the blood of America given the fact that all of our 'blood' came from foreign countries, mostly.

    And did I mention that his zero tolerance policy resulted in 2200 children permanently losing contact with their parents for a crime no greater than a misdemeanor? Yeah, that's right, first time crossers is a misdemeanor, so losing your kid forever is not justice.

    What is needed is a triple (whatever is needed) the number of personnel at all phases, at the border to deal with the flow and beef up security, a wall can't do it all, and a wall across a 2000 mile border just isn't feasible.

    What is needed is to streamline the path to citizenship because America has a labor shortage.

    What is needed is for Republicans to sign a bill addressing these things, but they won't do it.

    They don't want to give Biden a win because they are putting party above country, they don't want to do anything about it, they just want to bellyache and score cheap political points while America suffers.

    In short, the right has no policy, no solution, nothing. they are the do nothing but bellyache like hell party.
     
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